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Post by junpei on Dec 29, 2006 19:01:02 GMT 1
So in other words ensure you have a replacement lined up
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 29, 2006 19:39:22 GMT 1
Or simply don't go for the captainship if your a pillar. Mind you that's if you like and/or respect your captain.
Personal choices.
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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Dec 29, 2006 22:59:41 GMT 1
The way I see it, if you go straight for the captainship then you won't have a whole lot of real power because the pillars will act on their own, possibly treating the old captain like he still is one. Not to mention several gangbeatings on you by the pillars.
If you challenge a pillar and take his title, then move on and claim the captainship, it would be sensible to appoint someone to that pillar position to watch your back. That would be the most sensible way.
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Post by Kyukaku on Dec 29, 2006 23:02:44 GMT 1
Okay, well for my first fight going against Pain Killer and Aryck at the same time, I thought I did pretty well you doubling teaming bastards! *shakes fist*
As for the talk of me being a newb well, I did start out one as everyone else did. I don't believe Odin still thinks of me as one, but I still appreciate the backing John.
And if anyone does think I'm a newb, well thats sad and ironic for the chosen few who know me. anyways back on subject, I feel this is heading in the right path and don't have anythign to say that wouldn't be redundant.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 29, 2006 23:23:54 GMT 1
Mm. There was a point that I thought of awhile ago, then forgot before returning home from work. Now I've remembered again, so here it is.
If a challenge for a title, whether it be Pillar or Captain, is underway, I don't think anyone should be allowed to interfere. Whether there's 'pressing issues' around the school or not, if the fight goes unfinished it just brings up a higher tension, and not just between the two combatants, but the student population as well.
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Post by Kyukaku on Dec 30, 2006 0:12:31 GMT 1
I also think they should be one on one fights, but if not, then remember that cheating will bring in other people, including the other pillars.
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Post by kaiser on Dec 30, 2006 7:14:35 GMT 1
My opinion on the whole thing is that, It's going to be pretty hard to attempt to take captainship, chances are if the captain does accept, you have to make sure the pillars have your bacl, otherwise it's a failed government. now maybe if you had a whole group of people one for each position to change the entire group at one time, then you wouldn't have to worry about anyone rebelling because it is a completely new government.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 30, 2006 8:09:54 GMT 1
That's not really an opinion. That's more under the heading of a plan.
Not to mention all that's been said before. Only when it was considered an original thought.
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Post by kaiser on Dec 30, 2006 8:11:10 GMT 1
Oopsies my fault then I didn't really read the whole thread i should've though
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Post by king on Dec 30, 2006 9:12:05 GMT 1
Just in case there is still some arguements in the Kyukaku newb scandal, I'll just settle things. The time which Odin referred to was during Kyu's newbship (I've made a term for it, squee!). Kyu is no longer a newb, unlike some other people who have been here longer. You should have tried harder
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Post by xae on Dec 30, 2006 9:16:15 GMT 1
can't we all be friends :-)
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Post by archangel5871 on Dec 30, 2006 9:22:07 GMT 1
Taking cheating into effect: this could easily be dealt with in a simple manner. If someone is cheated out of pillar/captainship (blackmail, gangbeating, etc.) it would only make sense storyline-wise that those that were loyal to the person cheated would be free to do what they will against the cheaters by permission from the cheated and the cheatees.
One-on-one fights would be the honorable way to do things and would recognize more respect and such, but let's say Kvist (only as an example) has some kind of investment and does something Kvist would do causing the downfall of a pillar or captain. That would be a different kind of rule; rather one based on respect and honor, it would be one based on fear and intimidation. I think it could work out swimmingly depending on the personalities of people involved and a well worked out storyline, and seeing as how most fairly active people here can do things such as this I foresee little problem.
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Post by king on Dec 30, 2006 10:06:47 GMT 1
I don't think you can blackmail someone out of a pillar position. I'm a pillar, if you don't like how I spend my free time (and it's common knowledge my character gambles under age), what are you going to do about it? If you actually do something meaningful, can I not stop you? If I lose respect, can I not just crack down and take it back through fear.
Seriously, not the best plan.
The Pillar system is based on the natural student social hierarchy. You need to be strong and popular.....which means your have to take both of these away from the person to take his position, as only one won't get you the right support. In short...
STOP LOOKING FOR SHORTCUTS! GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND MAKE SOME PLOT!
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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Dec 30, 2006 19:37:33 GMT 1
Kurtzatron has spoken, and as it shall be.
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Post by junpei on Dec 30, 2006 20:25:30 GMT 1
I give ye the one commandment of Kurzatron! STOP LOOKING FOR SHORTCUTS! GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND MAKE SOME PLOT! Make it so.
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Dec 31, 2006 0:46:19 GMT 1
I'm officially adding that to the rules
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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Dec 31, 2006 19:49:28 GMT 1
I didn't think you were serious about putting it into the FAQ...
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Post by Director Troutman on Dec 31, 2006 19:51:13 GMT 1
I didn't think you were serious about putting it into the FAQ... Awh, I was damned serious
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Post by junpei on Dec 31, 2006 20:32:32 GMT 1
my names in the FAQ... I didn't think he'd go so far as to quote me <_<
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Post by archangel5871 on Dec 31, 2006 20:33:49 GMT 1
*le sigh* I suppose the sneaky, behind the scenes kind of way is a no go than? We have to duke it out mano y mano.... I didn't think it'd pass by Kurtzatron anyway. As for "mak[ing] some plot", I think all that sneaky shit would lead to very intricate plots and storylines. In fact, they would last longer than a simple: "Hey, I challenge you, let's fight" // "Ok, you asked for it..." // [insert fight scene here] // But what Kurtzatron says is like the word of God. [insert lightening strike here]
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