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Post by Leon Loire on Dec 28, 2006 5:06:53 GMT 1
I'm on my Dr. Pepper, so yes... in my own sense.
Yes, Drugs are bad. Now moving on.
While, yes, he may have been a newb in the past, the fact still remains.... if there was one to start with.
However, it doesn't matter. I just found your response... amusing.
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Post by Darren Blayne on Dec 28, 2006 5:19:53 GMT 1
As much as I'd like to say "Yes, the battle has to be fair,", there have got to be ways around that.
Now, think about this: If a guy walks up with three of his lackeys and out in the middle of nowhere challenges the Captain to a match for his title, Cap's likely not gonna accept it.
If you are going to make it a sneak attack, you'd have to make it REALLY sneaky and not obvious at all.
I dunno, I'm still on the fence as far as that's concerned.
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Post by kaiser on Dec 28, 2006 5:54:45 GMT 1
Personally it just seems like a lot of positions are going to change frequently or maybe not.
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Post by John Smith on Dec 28, 2006 6:50:29 GMT 1
Fair battles? Did I ever enter any of those?
Let me see.... NĂ¥ou? I think anything should be allowed in the fights... It is just up to the challenged captain or pillar to not fall for it. Just no hidden weapons please xD
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Post by king on Dec 28, 2006 7:31:52 GMT 1
Doesn't have to be fair....but remember that unless the challenge is accepted, a gang beating will merely result with another from someone who is stronger than you before he had a larger frorce than yours. That would be if he accepted the challange...if not you'd just lose whatever allies you had.
So yeah, try it, see what happens.
Also, if someone goes straight for captainshi, they are retarded. If you think for a single second that just because you took the captain you have power, your wrong. Don't think the other Pillars wouldn't like the position themselves. Being the new captain, with pratically none of the formers support, you couldn't say no to a challange without losing the position automatically.
In general, it's not the title but the power that counts. If your too dumb to see that, sure take the captainship. We'll just see how long you have until I take it from you....that would be what, three seconds at best?
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Post by junpei on Dec 28, 2006 9:41:11 GMT 1
I give it 2.89 Kurtz.
In all actuallity I see it being a good four to five months before anything big happens, at least involving the captainship. Pillars, I can see fights popping up there pretty regularly. Of course with this in place, no pillar should expect an easy job, remember that before you try to take the title.
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Dec 28, 2006 14:26:47 GMT 1
Ganging up on the captain however could prove to be quite interesting, since that would allow the pillars to move in if they are in favor of the current captain and support him. I mean, it's logic that someone would try to defeat the captain by being the greater group, and in that case the pillars would have more influence and standing, would they not?
On a sidenote though, can a captain/pillar be officially challenged, officially accepted, and than simply beaten and left in shame, something along those lines. I'd understand if you'd say it's an entirely different case, but I wouldn't count it as a refused match by the captain/pillar. In the series we see that pillars are being taken down but not necesarily replaced. I understand we are different from the actual serie in a way, but I think there are enough people who would simply want to take down a pillar in public without actually having to take care of the position themselves. If that person is one that has proven himself worthy and all, it would be a shame if such a battle would be seen as 'just another fight the pillar/captain has gotten himself into'.
Just a thought though. I like the outlay of captain/pillar accepting/refusing the challange and fighting for the title etc.
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Post by Pain Killer on Dec 28, 2006 17:33:16 GMT 1
Also, if someone goes straight for captainshi, they are retarded. If you think for a single second that just because you took the captain you have power, your wrong. Don't think the other Pillars wouldn't like the position themselves. Being the new captain, with pratically none of the formers support, you couldn't say no to a challange without losing the position automatically. In general, it's not the title but the power that counts. If your too dumb to see that, sure take the captainship. We'll just see how long you have until I take it from you....that would be what, three seconds at best? Yay! I'm retarded! Well, in all fairness, it's not so much the power that Pain Killer wants, but rather, the recognition. Eh, oh well.
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Post by welch on Dec 29, 2006 4:38:04 GMT 1
you have to prove you can actually beat the current holder of your title, not just out-RP them until you get handed a technical victory. I would like to say one thing about that. We want someone in the position of pillars and captanship that can roleplay (By no means am I saying you cannot) I know most have fair skill with it, but occasionally that noob comes along, makes a hulk character, and while you try to roleplay it niceley they just take every attack, power play, and god mode. My point being there should be some display of fair roleplaying skill in these matches, not just a fight contest. I think it should be 50/50.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 29, 2006 4:40:40 GMT 1
That's why a Moderater will be observing in real life, to make sure no one God-mods. They do that, and the threads locked, deleted, or just plainly forgotten. Or something along those lines.
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Post by bk on Dec 29, 2006 6:47:03 GMT 1
Wait... Just wondering. If the said Captain is kicked down and we get a replacement in... what with the pillars? Are they out of commision and some new ones will be chosen by the cap' or what?
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Post by Darren Blayne on Dec 29, 2006 6:54:53 GMT 1
No, that's the whole point.
To fully be supported as a captain, you're going to have to deal with the pillars first, even if you can, technically, go straight for Captain.
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Post by kaiser on Dec 29, 2006 6:55:56 GMT 1
so basically the pillars could jump you and cause a mutiny
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 29, 2006 7:00:49 GMT 1
But by doing that they'd most likely cause a riot, should the captain fall to someone who's hated, basically a 'Varronite'.
But then again, even if the pillars revolt against the new captain, they can't actually take his/her spot unless the challenge for a position change has been accepted.
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Post by junpei on Dec 29, 2006 7:09:00 GMT 1
Which makes the whole thing a very complicated and political matter. Not only must a new captain have the peoples support, he must also have the support of at least a pillar or two, so he can effectively keep the peace at the top. So like I said before, it won't be an easy job to take the title, and no one can expect it to be some random person coming out of left field, it's going to have to be someone established.
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Post by Darren Blayne on Dec 29, 2006 7:21:08 GMT 1
That's the glory of the system.
Simple, yet oh-so-complicated.
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Post by king on Dec 29, 2006 10:08:05 GMT 1
It's not complicated at all. Here, let me show you.
STOP LOOKING FOR SHORTCUTS! GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND MAKE SOME DAMN PLOT!
See how the viel is lifted from thier eyes......
Also, a captain wouldn't likely resist a challange from a pillar....too much power thier FAR too close to home. Better to make sure your secure but you go looking for trouble.
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Dec 29, 2006 13:45:41 GMT 1
Hehe, just have a fake deck of cards, challenge Kurtz to a game of highest card wins, at stake: his pillarship.. win, be joyfull for a second and after that... feel the fist of a sore loser
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Post by bk on Dec 29, 2006 18:37:11 GMT 1
Heres a new question. Is it possible for me to hold both pillar titles and captainship title at the same time? Considering. If I am a Pillar, challenge the Captain, and win. (Shouldn't be too hard ) Then I would still have my Pillar title, and just won the Captain's title. Then in theory, he should have both titles. And incase the other pillar thinks "OMGWTFBBQ?" and challenges the captain/pillar and lose. Blam, the captain/pillar X 2 has everything he can get and can distribute the titles as he wish? Or keep them for himself... Just a thought.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Dec 29, 2006 18:51:28 GMT 1
You'd give up the pillar title and leave it vacant. In this case? There CANNOT be 'only one'
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