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Post by Maverik on May 17, 2007 18:43:25 GMT 1
The resulting super heating turns them into Plasma. And supposedly the Borg can assimilate almost anything. So it wouldn't be beyond them. The cube itself however would sustain massive damage from the main cannon. And regardless of single fire or multiple, that would be enough for them to board the Death Star. Most likely in the barracks or the prison block. Wherever the highest concentration of convertible fodder was.
But that's where their advantage would end. Vader himself would make an appearance, and in one swift hand gesture, use mind trick to control a single Borg, and thus control them all. The Queen would try to bargain, Vader would decline due to how weak minded the Borg are, and when she attempted to inject him, he'd simply use the force to toss her aside. So while loosing allot of men... Over all, Vader and the Death Star win out.
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Post by Auroth on May 17, 2007 21:18:13 GMT 1
DC.....
I'm not big into Western Comics... But the Sandman Series by Neil Gaiman is quite possibly the best comic I've read.
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Post by king on May 17, 2007 21:23:32 GMT 1
Well, I don't think it's really matters what the answer is to my earlier question is now.
If the borg are going to get onboard the death star, they'll need to get through thier sheilds. This mean's they'd have to either fight it out in space with the first one or go planet side on the second.
Either way, the Borg cube will not last that long. It's a big ship, but not that big of a ship. Seeing as the Death star can blow up a planet with one strong shot, and a capital ship with another, more frequent shot, it's safe to say that given the size, they'll just go ahead and shoot the borg down before it happens.
And since borgs have to take one shot before they can calibrate thier shields for laser weapons, that shot's going through thier sheild, and blowing them straight to hell. Even if it isn't a super planet shot, the shot from a normal space battle shot should still be enough to destroy a cube, if not at least damage to the point of retreat.
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Post by saskai on May 18, 2007 0:54:29 GMT 1
Marvel will always be my favorite. I never liked superman much either. And I found that the last movie kind of ruined the experience for me.
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Post by John Smith on May 18, 2007 1:22:49 GMT 1
I have a feeling a normal star fleet commander/captain would try and attack the death star from behind [Behind = wherever the big ass laser ain't aiming at.] so it can't be used against your fleet. Would sound logical. Just hide behind the planet, come up from the back side of the Death star. Fire like crazy at the ground shields, break through from below [So the Death star commander is forced to risk firing at his own ground forces once the death star main laser has turned to face the threat. If it can do that so fast.]
Weee.
But they'd still get owned by the defensive systems inside the death star.
[Btw, I don't know what a borg is... I just assumed that they/it can use tactics and logic.]
[And yes: I hereby say that, the commanders of the fleet that attacked the second death star, are bunch of idiots. The main laser is not working! Let's just place our star fleet so they can shoot at us freely in case it is working! ... And who brings a hospital ship into the battle it self? Seriously. Are they stupid?]
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Post by Nathan Branigan on May 18, 2007 1:35:37 GMT 1
I have a feeling a normal star fleet commander/captain would try and attack the death star from behind [Behind = wherever the big ass laser ain't aiming at.] so it can't be used against your fleet. Would sound logical. Just hide behind the planet, come up from the back side of the Death star. Fire like crazy at the ground shields, break through from below [So the Death star commander is forced to risk firing at his own ground forces once the death star main laser has turned to face the threat. If it can do that so fast.] Weee. But they'd still get owned by the defensive systems inside the death star. [Btw, I don't know what a borg is... I just assumed that they/it can use tactics and logic.] [And yes: I hereby say that the commanders of the attack on the second death star are bunch of idiots. It is not working! Let's just place our star fleet so they can shoot at us freely in case it is working! ... And who brings a hospital ship into the battle it self? Seriously. Are they stupid?] Borg are a race/machine group from Star Trek. Basically poorly built Kurtzatrons. They rely more on brute force and running straight at people to beat them. So that is why the Death Star would blast the hell out of a Borg Cube. 'Adapt' all you want, it can still blow up a whole planet. If the blast doesn't work then just blow up a nearby planet and destroy it with the debris. Also, I think Marvel is better than DC. Batman is cool, but Marvel has: Spiderman, Iron Man, The Hulk, Fantastic Four, etc.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on May 18, 2007 4:57:20 GMT 1
The borg cube cannot withstand a blast from the lolcannon. It has x1 000 000 more power NEEDED to destroy a mecha planet. Its SUPER MEGA ULTRA HEAVY LOLVERKILL.
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Post by king on May 18, 2007 15:49:19 GMT 1
The borg cube isn't exactly noteworthy for it's manuverability....that idea was kind of thrown to the wind when they made thier ship the cube shape. It's going to have trouble avoiding a death star's main cannon...
OK, since this one is getting one sided....
Darleks vs. Decepticons and......go!
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Post by Maverik on May 18, 2007 18:25:16 GMT 1
Borg can teleport through Death Star sheilds as they wouldn't be designed to prevent that as no such technology exsists in Star Wars. And they would use the smaller cannon on the Borg Cube. Adapting sheilds or not, the thing can also phisically repair itself. That's why it's so menacing. You can pretty much tear it to shreds and it'll rebuild and no longer take damage from your gun.
And Decepticons win hands down. The Darleks are good... But a Decepticon need only step on one, or give it a good boot to finish off the thing. Besides, I doubt the Death Ray would do much to the giant robots.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on May 18, 2007 19:25:52 GMT 1
Borg can teleport through Death Star sheilds as they wouldn't be designed to prevent that as no such technology exsists in Star Wars. And they would use the smaller cannon on the Borg Cube. Adapting sheilds or not, the thing can also phisically repair itself. That's why it's so menacing. You can pretty much tear it to shreds and it'll rebuild and no longer take damage from your gun. And Decepticons win hands down. The Darleks are good... But a Decepticon need only step on one, or give it a good boot to finish off the thing. Besides, I doubt the Death Ray would do much to the giant robots. There is no repairing when you cease to exist. The laser will -obliterate- it. Also, how will the borg even know what the death star is, since its scanners are not made to detect a moon sized space station? They don't have the technology to detect as far as the death star can. The death star would blow them up before they even know its no moon.
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Post by king on May 19, 2007 11:27:13 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure the deathstar's shields could keep out the Borg....just because they're not desinged with the in mind does not mean they are not capable....considering they're capable of keeping ships of decent size from reaching it, and the borg shields in comparrison can't keep out a torpedo, I think it's a safe bet.
Also, in a long fight, the death star has one thing the cube doesn't have....ion cannons....either way, that cube is losing it's shield long before the death star does.
Also, I meant that in a general race war way earlier, not a one on one match.
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Post by kaiser on May 20, 2007 22:28:50 GMT 1
I think Marvel and DC. Both are two great comic book dynasties. I think marvel just knows how to market things more. What I will say about DC, is that they can be REAAL original at times. My favorite super hero being the crack pot no face havin' The Question. One of the most Original characters I have ever come across. And that, makes me prefer DC.
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Post by traitorous on May 21, 2007 0:32:46 GMT 1
Okay yeah I'm not going to take the time to read everything that was said so far, so I'll just get to my point. DC as a whole sucks compared to Marvel. They have Batman, the uber rich President of some company thats only cool thing about him are his gadgets which are still lame. Then there is Superman, the undefeatable super hero that seems to be pulling more and more powers out of his ass. I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way to get over the whole green stone weakness if they haven't already thought about that. Then you have people like the Flash, Green Lantern, and a few other ones that are just there. Marvel has super heroes to rival and beat everyone of those people. In the X-Men series alone they probably have a person that is like any DC character with powers, so there you go. And then they have Iron Man who totally owns Batman in money and gadgets. I could go on but I really don't feel like making an arguement about something that should be obvious.
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Post by Maverik on May 21, 2007 12:30:11 GMT 1
Okay yeah I'm not going to take the time to read everything that was said so far, so I'll just get to my point. DC as a whole sucks compared to Marvel. They have Batman, the uber rich President of some company thats only cool thing about him are his gadgets which are still lame. Then there is Superman, the undefeatable super hero that seems to be pulling more and more powers out of his ass. I wouldn't be surprised if he finds a way to get over the whole green stone weakness if they haven't already thought about that. Then you have people like the Flash, Green Lantern, and a few other ones that are just there. Marvel has super heroes to rival and beat everyone of those people. In the X-Men series alone they probably have a person that is like any DC character with powers, so there you go. And then they have Iron Man who totally owns Batman in money and gadgets. I could go on but I really don't feel like making an arguement about something that should be obvious. Reading these threads in their entierity is time comsuming. But it saves you from looking like an ass. You sir, failed in this regard.
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Post by king on May 21, 2007 17:33:34 GMT 1
.....there really was not a single sentence said there that I could not argue, with evidence,to the contrary....
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Post by charlotte on May 21, 2007 19:24:08 GMT 1
And Decepticons win hands down. The Darleks are good... But a Decepticon need only step on one, or give it a good boot to finish off the thing. Besides, I doubt the Death Ray would do much to the giant robots. A Dalek's death ray could totally kill a Decepticon. And if not, then all the Dalek needs to do is "elevate", hover to face level with the Decepticon, and just sucker it to death, draining all it's energy and information. I mean seriously, they were only a step away from taking control of the entire universe, and only lost due to the intervention of the Time Lords and the ensuing Time War, with both races going extinct, and only the Doctor and a handful of Daleks surviving. *sigh* The only way to really kill Daleks is to cover their eye-stalks with a hat or shoe, then suck them into the Time Vortex
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Post by Director Troutman on May 21, 2007 21:12:49 GMT 1
Daleks...The only species in the world that can be defeated by stairs.
If you don't know what I mean in that regard, you're either NEW school Dr. Who, or don't know what I'm talking about. Decepticons can climb stairs, thusforth, they win that one. No more explanation necessary.
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Post by charlotte on May 21, 2007 21:46:08 GMT 1
I know exactly what you mean in that regard, though Daleks have been able to hover since the Seventh Doctor's time. Decepitons may have won the battle of stairs, but they'd still loose the war!
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Post by traitorous on May 21, 2007 22:35:33 GMT 1
Meh I was board and just thought I'd rant about some mindless things on something that is completely that really doesn't matter in the least to me. Marvel has more "Super" heroes overall, meaning that they actually have powers. And then DC tends to make a lot of comics that are based on regular people doing irregular things. Both have strong and weak points, but in a bias oppinion I think Marvel is better over all. There really will never be a true winner because each of the comic companies have their share of fans that are completely die hard. And if I made an ass of myself before, then I made an ass of myself. I won't deny it, but everything I stated before and now is all in my personal oppinion so yeah.
Spiderman 3 wasn't great but at least it had some actual bad guys, unlike Superman Returns. They were both visually nice movies but I like to see good face evil in a finaly bout.
No more ranting from me on this subject because it is really pointless. Actually can't beleive I even reposted. Guess I just wanna pass the time till my next IC post.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on May 22, 2007 0:21:17 GMT 1
excuses excuses.
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