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Post by Director Troutman on Jul 24, 2008 1:49:45 GMT 1
552 has been nuked.
Now, I'm making it clear here that any ill will to the site for personal reasons or whatnot will not be tolerated here, so just get the 'hahas' out your system before you think of replying. Frankly, it's a damned shame that it went down as it had. Basically, one member of theirs, Fumetsu I believe was his name, decided to hack the admin account and delete 552 based on a personal grudge against one of the other members. A nice guy, I'm sure. -_-;
Now, I'm fairly sure this is an isolated incident and it'll not affect us in any way, but I'm well aware of who this person is, and quite sure some of you are as well. Fact is, a lot of you are probably already aware of this, but there are some who might not have known until now.
That's all. No big tale from me today. Just the relevant news.
~Admin
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Post by Aden Allett on Jul 24, 2008 1:59:47 GMT 1
Yeah, guessed the admins password and then he just deleted everything. I don't even know if he was a member. Apparently, he just though the whole board was a sin upon god. Ah well, they'll rebuild. We did.
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Post by Director Troutman on Jul 24, 2008 2:06:21 GMT 1
Ah well, they'll rebuild. We did. No doubt. They're already working on the reform at the moment, according to my sources. Fact is, they've been around for years. This isn't the first time it's happened, as I've learnt, and they tend to come back from it. Ironically, even though it's a crap thing to have happened, this might actually do a sliver of good to 552. They'll be redoing everything from scratch, or close to it, and it'll give them a chance to look at older things and think 'Hey, we can improve on that'. What gets me is the numbers of people on other XIN sites that are praising this like it's some kind of big lol-convention, I guess. Sure, you don't need to like the place, but there were people who did. Maybe not the nicest of folk, but they kept out of our way and everyone elses and did their own thing in relative peace. Kinda like bombing Switzerland. If it were full of teenage roleplayers. |
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Post by Aden Allett on Jul 24, 2008 2:18:20 GMT 1
The problem is it's the internet. People that weren't involved aren't likely to show much compassion towards it. Hell, even I had a bit of a laugh, but I still know it wasn't right and am able to sympathize. Though, I’m slightly biased, as something similar happened to us. But looking at the growing distaste there has been for 552 and some of the people there, it doesn’t surprise me that other boards mocked the way they did. Many people disliked 552, and if you haven’t experienced something like what happened, and hold a distaste for them, it makes logical sense that you feel, “they got what they deserved,” Even if that is or isn’t true.
It’s obviously just a guy full of spite who thought it a good idea to wreak some havoc, just for the hell of it. Maybe revenge or something, I don’t know, but knowing the guy who did it, it wasn’t a tolerable reason, I’m sure. It’s as though he is trying to pass it off as some form of vigilante internet justice, much like Anon. He only holds distaste for it and that’s a good enough reason to pull what he did. It’s not. It’s an idiotic excuse.
Like you said, they minded their own business. We never really received any trouble form them on our boards, and we always have the opportunity to leave theirs if we don’t enjoy something. They are just an RP board. What’s the point of fucking with it? What does it prove? That you can guess a guys password and, instead of taking the high road, possibly just sink down to the level of the people you seem to be so disgusted by?
Anyway, all I know is I don’t want him around these forums, or the others I frequent where he may be. It just leaves me with the feeling of, “What if he tries something here?” We’ve been through it once before and I don’t think we want to deal with it again.
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Post by Leon Loire on Jul 24, 2008 3:33:53 GMT 1
I don't care if 552 was run by Adolf Hitler; deleting four and a half years of board history just for shits and giggles is absolutely wrong.
I'm still up for having Fumetsu's IP banned from Hircine, just to prove that this board doesn't tolerate antics like that. 552 may not be popular with people due to issues - and I've heard many reasons why - but that doesn't mean acts like that are justified.
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Post by Keith Richards on Jul 24, 2008 3:48:46 GMT 1
I don't care if 552 was run by Adolf Hitler; deleting four and a half years of board history just for shits and giggles is absolutely wrong. I'm still up for having Fumetsu's IP banned from Hircine, just to prove that this board doesn't tolerate antics like that. 552 may not be popular with people due to issues - and I've heard many reasons why - but that doesn't mean acts like that are justified. Second. |
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Post by Kei on Jul 24, 2008 6:37:39 GMT 1
Yeah; the other night (two nights ago) a XIN2 vet IMed me about it. Expectedly, we both kinda laughed about it. I mean, not like Nelson from the Simpsons, but just at the fact that someone pulled something off like this. This won't be the first time the board would reset, but at least the neverending question of restarting their board is answered. I enjoyed my time there, so it's definitely not a bad place, but if the people who I believe in are still apart of the board, this reboot may be a certain benefit. I just wonder how the decisions will be made, cuz honestly, who knows if they'll truly do something different with the board? Why should they, you know?
I know that the players kept specific threads open (one to every RPer) that kept track of their stats, fights, items, and so on. And, since of course no one was really expecting this (sorry for the truism), there may be people who never kept a seperate document of their records. There's hardly anyone who would start over, especially the ones who have been around for years (since they already had too some years ago due to the previous reset mentioned). I think that (mostly) everyone would start up again with the same stats, and etc. I'm not sure the direction of the board (storyline wise) will change either, but you never know.
I really feel bad though; that place had SO much history, and after XIN1 fell, I felt that XIN2 was the only remaining testament to what XIN RP has gone through all these years. I met a lot of people on that board, and if it weren't for them, I would've entirely gave up on RP two years ago. And you know, despite what people may have said back then, even I improved in many ways because of them. Sure, there were a lot of boneheads around, but there were also people who I became close with. With the respect they carried and the treatment they gave to an outsider like me, I think their board in itself began to change. I know their board wasn't perfect, but I had loads of fun helping out the place with a trustworthy team. But what really makes feel disappointed is the fact that I bookmarked my posts on that forum, and I'd re-read 'em every so often.
Ah... well... sorry for rambling. But, hey, I guess I did leave for a reason. I just hope the board lays low for a while so new plans could be made. That's my opinion (well, pretty much agreeing with Liam, xD)
~Manuel
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Jul 24, 2008 6:50:10 GMT 1
Fumetsu has a whole dossier for causing hell and getting banned on 552. Apparently, some grudges persisted for years, he becomes a bigger nutcase due to other circumstances, and you have him trying to kill 552 dead anyhow.
The problem with IP bans is that it's so easy to get around it and how you might ban an entire city if you're not careful. Even ProBoards can't touch him because that's the extent of their powers--IP bans (but "for all of ProBoards").
Anyways, while I know XIN1 has one heck of a versus-552 history, much longer than every other board and 259's even, I really do appreciate the level of maturity in dealing with this. No lies in having little sympathy, but willing to take things in from different perspectives.
Y'all make me very proud in being part of this community.
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Post by Kyukaku on Jul 24, 2008 6:53:34 GMT 1
I don't care if 552 was run by Adolf Hitler; deleting four and a half years of board history just for shits and giggles is absolutely wrong. I'm still up for having Fumetsu's IP banned from Hircine, just to prove that this board doesn't tolerate antics like that. 552 may not be popular with people due to issues - and I've heard many reasons why - but that doesn't mean acts like that are justified. Well... if it WAS run by Hitler I'm not sure I'd agree. Just sayin'. |
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Post by Aden Allett on Jul 24, 2008 7:01:57 GMT 1
I'd be more worried that Hitler's back and taking over our RP boards.
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Post by Kyukaku on Jul 24, 2008 7:07:20 GMT 1
I'd be more worried that Hitler's back and taking over our RP boards. Haha, makes for a terrible comeback. |
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Post by Aden Allett on Jul 24, 2008 7:11:15 GMT 1
I'd be more worried that Hitler's back and taking over our RP boards. Haha, makes for a terrible comeback. Or the best ever. He'd have the power of the internet. |
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Post by Pain Killer on Jul 24, 2008 7:23:46 GMT 1
Hm. That sucks.
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Post by Kei on Jul 24, 2008 8:04:40 GMT 1
Heh, you know, it makes me wonder... you think XIN2 made a thread for us when our board came down?
And, yes, we're happy for having you in our community ^^ , Val'.
~Manuel
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Jul 24, 2008 9:13:17 GMT 1
Heh, you know, it makes me wonder... you think XIN2 made a thread for us when our board came down? Actually, it did. There was no ill-will though. Just surprise, some confusion, and morbid curiosity about what was going on... After all, the story behind the fall was pretty interesting. The thread got locked early at the risk of flames coming up though. ^^; It wasn't as though they were thinking about their rivalry with XIN1 every waking moment for being different. ::huggles~:: |
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Post by Aden Allett on Jul 24, 2008 15:43:52 GMT 1
So, anyone want to explain why the url is now broken and leads back to the proboards main site?
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Jul 24, 2008 16:14:58 GMT 1
One of 552's older admins was online when the whole board disappeared and to my knowledge, he along with the rest of the staff are still looking into that by contacting ProBoards. No one should've snuck by under his watch.
No one knows if it's a glitch or Fumetsu pulled another one because there were very cool, calm, and collected restoration efforts instead of complete mass chaos like he planned.
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Post by Kei on Jul 24, 2008 22:31:11 GMT 1
Wow... I took a look at what other XINsters are saying about what happened, and really? It sickens me. It got me thinking, what the hell has XIN become? There really are some stupid, insensitive people out there, and spew nothing but shit as if what they say is reasonable. Actually, I haven't said something like this in years, but, I fucking hate 259. Not all of them are assholes, mind you, but still. It's just disappointing, is all. These forums were made for people to have fun and write in a XIN-based universe. If it wasn't for MJ, XIN RP would've never even existed, and I know for a fact she didn't propose it with shit like this in mind. People were saying that XIN2 was all OOC drama, and became a horrid board. Fuck that. Those same people are the ones creating drama now, and guess what, they're on a different forum. Why? Cuz that forum was started by people who came from the now closed 552. Huh, I guess you can't forget your roots afterall. It's funny, cuz those people who talk all that smack? Yeah, can't write worth shit either.
Yeah. I know, I'm coming off as biased. There's a lot of things I'm keeping in mind, since having an open-mind is key to life, but right now I'm infuriated. I apologize for this type of post, but I feel like I needed to let off some steam. If it seems like the post shouldn't be here, then, do away with it. I suppose that, in the end, all of the XIN boards should take a look at their own forum and find ways of improvement. I never felt so... glad, to be apart of this board with you guys.
~Manuel
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Post by Director Troutman on Jul 24, 2008 23:08:14 GMT 1
If it seems like the post shouldn't be here, then, do away with it. Not at all, it's a well-founded remark. Fact is, I made it clear from the off I didn't want people giving the haw-haws about after seeing the state of affairs over at 259 by some (I REPEAT, SOME. NOT ALL) of its members. I appreciate fully some people have less than friendly memories there, but I expect better of folk here. Still, as has been said, the maturity shown is impressive. You guys make me proud sometimes, lol. |
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Post by Damien Blaze on Jul 24, 2008 23:39:38 GMT 1
Still, as has been said, the maturity shown is impressive. You guys make me proud sometimes, lol. Right-o. I'm an avid fan of 259. I love it there, always have. Hate me for it, love me for it, thats your prerogative. HOWEVER, the way they handled speaking about the fall of 552 was totally un-called for. Ive never been on 552, so i cant speak for or against it. I understand, though, that there is a lot of hostility toward they're board. it doesn't matter to me what they've done. Having your entire board erased would be terrible. What if that happened here? Ive known a couple people who weren't fond of hircine and would probably laugh at its fall. How would that make you feel? If it happened here, that would devastate quite a few people I'm sure. I'm VERY proud of the way this board has handled talking about it. Like Liam said, it shows a level of maturity thats just impressive. EDIT: let me re-phrase, the way a select FEW handled talking about 552's wipe was uncalled for. |
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