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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Apr 25, 2007 4:24:05 GMT 1
Someone who will remain nameless (who's definately not Adam) demanded that I put this thread up, to see who everyone thinks are the top ten fighters on the board. I'm adding my list, and for the sake of not arguing, don't criticize mine, or anyone else list. This all just opinion. My Personal List: 1. Shamino 2. Sternbot/Kurtzatron 3. Zeniro/Arlen 4. Taiku/Kazuki 5. Pain Killer/ Trent 6-10 (order unsure) Dain Gavyns, Tiao/Kyukaku (oh my not-so-secret identity revealed. ), Odin Reeves, Ein Gilsin, and Kokaku/Shuya I showed you mine, show me yours.
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Post by Pain Killer on Apr 25, 2007 4:26:00 GMT 1
You misunderstand. I didn't say put it up. I said I wasn't putting it up for you.
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Apr 25, 2007 4:53:02 GMT 1
oh my not-so-secret identity revealed. Obviously... Anyone who has the capability to right-click your images and go to "Properties" should be able to figure out off the bat who you were. Getting back on topic and although I haven't personally fought these people myself, I'd say from a spectator's viewpoint that my line up is for the most part similar... ...Save for the fact that most of the names are messed up and have no particular order. In short, at least we recognize the same people.
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Post by Maverik on Apr 25, 2007 5:04:03 GMT 1
Wow. I really need to get into more fights... Seems my rep has all but disintegrated
I'll throw up a list I guess since no one else is...
01: Taiku 02: Kurtz 03: Odin 04: Pain Killer 05: Maverik (Hey. SOMEONE might as well have me in their list...) 06: Dain 07: Ein 08: Tiao 09: Kokaku 10: Zeniro
I didn't put Shamino in because really... There's not a whole lotta point... Ein came in kinda low because he looses often (even if he shatters his opponent in the prossess), and Zeniro's 10 cus I honestly couldn't think of anyone for a 10th possition.
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Post by Kyukaku on Apr 25, 2007 5:07:35 GMT 1
I really only have seen a handful of your fights nick. And I've never seen manuel fight though I've heard good things about both of you.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Apr 25, 2007 5:22:43 GMT 1
Wow Mav. I've never been #0 on a list before.
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Apr 25, 2007 6:39:08 GMT 1
Well, Paul, adding you to the list IS redundant.
I guess I'll put my best guesses up, and note that these are based on CURRENT opinions and are always subject to change. Also, these are affected due to current presence in fighting, so if someone seems low for the list, or someone seems high, there's a chance it's because they've not been doing much on the board.
1. Stern/Kurtz 2. Zeniro
3-9. A round-robin type medley of Maverik, Taiku, Odin, Tiao/Kyu, Dain/Darren, Pain Killer/Trent and Ein. The reason nobody has an official place? Some of these guys can beat some of the fighters on this list, some can't. The same applies for every single person here. For example:
A can beat B, B can beat C, C can beat A. Each of the listed are exceptional enough, but trying to put them into order is almost impossible. Also should be considered the factor that one day a fight will go one way, the next day the outcome will be different.
I'm not going to explain my choices, so don't ask me. For those who saw the original version of this, consider this a reworked edit.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Apr 25, 2007 7:58:45 GMT 1
I'd put up a list, but really it's to late to try and think of one, especially after watching 'Fracture' and 'Blades of Glory'.
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Post by Zeniro on Apr 25, 2007 12:26:42 GMT 1
I'm going to do this without including myself.
My top three are.
Shamino/Taiku/Stern
Without a doubt, you fuck up against these guys and you're going to be up against it. My top three for sure.
The others I mention aren't going to be in any particular order. They are purely based on what I've seen from them. And in a few cases my experiences when facing them.
Leaf - With my Sebastian character Leaf and I fought on more than one occasion and it was a thoroughly enjoyable bout every time. I can honestly say that every time we faced off he improved. Even had me thinking 'Aww shit' a few times.
Dain Gavyns - I fought him once with Ajax, and I loved it. All I can say to him is that I'm very sorry I couldn't reply later on in our fight. I am however happy to give you a rematch any time you want mate.
Kyukaku - We've come so close on so many occasion, it will happen. It is inevitable. Wether or not Zeniro choses to bomb on Tiao or Kyu is yet to be seen.
Maverik - He's thrown it down on more than one occasion with Kazuki and from what I read he always gave it his all. The guys got skill, no doubt about it.
Odin Reeves - I haven't faced him yet, but it goes without saying that he can hold his own in the squared circle. Every time I've read his fights it has been an enjoyable experience.
Ein - Faced off with him in a tournament once. He's brutal, plain and simple. He made it clear that he wanted to pound Sebastian into the ground and fought tooth and nail to the end. Needless to say even if you manage to beat him, you're not coming out un-harmed.
Leon Loire - This space is reserved for him, because although he often chooses words over actions. You just know that his role playing talent means that he'll give you more than a good fight if it ever came down to it.
Those are my ten.
Others who nearly made it into my list are:
Painkiller Nezdad Ivo Advic
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Post by king on Apr 25, 2007 17:24:51 GMT 1
honestly, I've stopped keeping the list up to date for some time now...most of you damn know I still haven't found my #5 yet. I decided to adopt a tier system
Tier #1. Shamino/ Stern
Honestly, though most have been unable to track my progress (as only my fights with complete idiots seem to attract attention), most people have not been able to track my progress (and yes, I have actually continued to get better....). Quite frankly, I no longer consider Shamino to be the unquestionable best on the site. Situation's and characters used would decide the day.
Shamino would rip out Kurtz's heart and feed it to him, but Stern could probably beat Shamino. King and Edward would probably be the most fair matches between us.
Tier one is for people who are obviously got it down, and it really comes down to less of who makes the mistake and more of who forces one.
Tier #2: Zeniro
This tier I reserve for those who have made the "force mistakes" revolution, but have yet to become masters of it....Zeniro has always had a talent in this....probably better at it than both Shamino and I, but he fails to press his advantages over it properly.
Honestly, with effort put into it, Zeniro could easily close the gap between us, but he unfortunately hasn't the time (though considering he's posting more, that might have changed)
Tier #3 Taiku, Odin
This is the people who have got the basics down very well, and can do what they do very well, but have unfortunately not made the true mind-game leap yet required to get into the top ranks. Oddly enough, they tend to specialize more in one area more than another, often the latter being a problem.
Taiku notably has a pretty good defense, but his offense tends to be a bit redundant. Odin has a great offense (defiantly above what should be this tiers average), but unfortunately has little in defense, often having to rely on his character endurance to win the day. This often goes to extremes but he at least is not taking as far as some people (who annoyingly get away with such behavior)
Tier #4 Pain, Dain, Kyu, Kokkaku, Mav, anyone around that level.
These people, unquestionably, vary in skills and abilities, but all fail in the same respect. This is the single greatest flaw the site has, and Odin is the only person I've seen get beyond the level without completely addressing it.
Over-extension.
The vast majority of fighters on this board have yet to learn restraint....they counter, and counter....and counter......There's a good reason Shamino dodges, King parries, and Stern and Zeniro bypass....because they like not getting hurt when they overextend themselves.
Fights are not won by doing the most damage, they are won by being the one to ask for seconds when it is all said and done. Any of these fighters would immediately advance to the next level if they learned this (Odin would probably advance if he started paying serious attention to it).
Tier #5 Leon
FIGHT MORE!
Tier #6 Most people
Experience is what you want....good experience, where you actually experiment (experimenting can teach you more than a good opponent ever will)
Tier #7 People who are wrong.
If you have meet repeatedly yelling at you for being wrong, you need to basically work on your knowledge of fighting, physics, anatomy....
Tier #8 Modders....
If you have multiple staff yelling at you for modding.....as in, we blatantly discuss your modding and how we should deal with it, your here....this is actually the group that varies the most in skill of any tier.
my advice for you....stop! I don't need to rank you because your not worth RPing with
Tier # 100
People who write so poorly, in sentences with little structure, that you cannot make out what they are saying, what they're trying to do in every post, or generally just such bad writers you don't want to read what they won't preferring to simply abandon them rather than go through that torture required to what will, most likely in an ass beating via them screwing up in response to your actions, or screwing up because their poor understanding of the English language extends to even properly written work.
Pay attention in English class....half of it is bull (as you'll learn in college), but the other half is actually important.
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Post by Pain Killer on Apr 25, 2007 19:03:01 GMT 1
Tied for #1: Stern and Shamino - Mainly because I've rarely seen Shamino fight, but I've seen a lot of the resident robot's, as well as the fact that the time they were supposed to fight in a tourney match, the fight was cancelled due to other circumstances.
#3: Zeniro - I've read old fights on the former board, and needless to say, I've been impressed every time.
#4: Taiku - I don't think I need to explain this one.
#5: Dain - I've never seen someone minimize damage as effectively as he does. It's at the point where I can't decide whether I hate or love to fight him.
Tied for #6: Odin and myself - Whether it be foolish pride or something else, I think I could beat Odin, but until it happens, this spot is under dispute.
#8: Kyukaku - He gets better every fight, to the point where I'm sure he'll eventually be near the top of the list. Sooner rather than later.
#9: Ein - Simple. Effective. Not a day goes by that I don't think to myself "Boy, that guy would be fun to fight."
#10: Leon - Only seen the one fight against Kvist, but that's one more fight than I've seen from a lot of oldies.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Apr 25, 2007 20:51:45 GMT 1
Then let Stern throw down the gauntlet imho.
Actualy, explain Pain Killer, why Kazuki is so good? I never recall him being fantastic (no insult really meant) and he was alright in every fight I read with him in it. I wouldn't really say 'enough said' in that case.
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Post by Pain Killer on Apr 25, 2007 20:56:46 GMT 1
Then let Stern throw down the gauntlet imho. Actualy, explain Pain Killer, why Kazuki is so good? I never recall him being fantastic (no insult really meant) and he was alright in every fight I read with him in it. I wouldn't really say 'enough said' in that case. I've fought him three times, by my count. He's kicked the crap out of me twice, and it was a close fight the third time. That's the firsthand knowledge I've got, other than that, during my stay on the board I've yet to see him lose that I can recall.
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Post by king on Apr 25, 2007 22:00:55 GMT 1
Shamino, you know I don't fight without IC reason....if you can think of some reason you'd get involved with Stern (the only one i can think of reasonably would be a matter I might need to employ your skills for....) then a fight will happen...until then your probably going to have to wait for a chance of that fight.
Honestly, I'm pretty confident Odin can beat you in a fight Pain....he just has better tecnical skills....not that is a permanent situation.
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Post by Kit Lee on Apr 25, 2007 22:06:28 GMT 1
Hey, don't forget that this board was made for the lists, not to argue about someone's decisions for who was on their top ten
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Post by Pain Killer on Apr 25, 2007 22:08:26 GMT 1
Honestly, I'm pretty confident Odin can beat you in a fight Pain....he just has better tecnical skills....not that is a permanent situation. Way to ruin my delusion of adequacy.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Apr 25, 2007 22:21:55 GMT 1
Hey, don't forget that this board was made for the lists, not to argue about someone's decisions for who was on their top ten I'll ask questions when I want, in what thread I want, to satisfy my curosity. Either respect an Admin's curosity, or GTFO.
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Post by king on Apr 25, 2007 22:34:08 GMT 1
first off, wtf is that mask on his head supposed to be?
Secondly, I'm just saying how I think it is. If you want to prove me wrong, I don't think Odin would turn down a match..he'd probably enjoy it. It would be a good challange for him, and it would be a good way to improve by examining the way you fight.
Just reading succesful peoples posts can help. I have no shame in admiting that my offesive style is based off of Zeniro's style heavily.
Also, I'm not arguing Pain's list, I'm giving opinion on a matter he has shown some trouble distinguishing the elements from. It's a different prespective to consider, nothing more.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Apr 25, 2007 22:43:55 GMT 1
first off, wtf is that mask on his head supposed to be? Secondly, I'm just saying how I think it is. If you want to prove me wrong, I don't think Odin would turn down a match..he'd probably enjoy it. It would be a good challange for him, and it would be a good way to improve by examining the way you fight. Just reading succesful peoples posts can help. I have no shame in admiting that my offesive style is based off of Zeniro's style heavily. Also, I'm not arguing Pain's list, I'm giving opinion on a matter he has shown some trouble distinguishing the elements from. It's a different prespective to consider, nothing more. I beat Odin with a square kick to the balls a month or two ago.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Apr 25, 2007 23:01:51 GMT 1
I beat Odin with a square kick to the balls a month or two ago. That was, well, a bad time for me IRL. So many things just pushed out there when fighting your character, so many things Odin would normally never do.
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