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Post by kenshin on Mar 6, 2007 5:29:24 GMT 1
Oh come now guys don't be Dain up like that. Sure he can be an ass hat, but he's a good guy. I actually started to miss him when he rarely came on. For the mods, i actually like to see Painy up. i dont know the guy much (not that i wouldn't be interested in meeting the guy ) but ive watched how he Rp's and conducts himself. In my book he's a perfect candidate.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Mar 6, 2007 5:40:18 GMT 1
And I do not believe that is a legitimate reason. He is an admin lite but he has a lot more reasons then just being on for long periods of time. BAM
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Post by Odin Reeves on Mar 6, 2007 6:39:39 GMT 1
While my log-in record as of late is rather poor, it doesn't mean I havn't been reading the threads. My opinion on the matter, another one of the four V.I.P's mentioned would make a good mod, each carrying in there own quality's. Personally, would I like to be a mod? Hell yeah. I keep reading bio's without the ability to mark them, so it's not like it takes up any of my time.
But regardless, if your looking for a Mod to be around in the near future, I'm not on the list. Having no access to a computer for a the week before spring break is something that limits one's ability to moderate.
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Post by king on Mar 7, 2007 23:17:17 GMT 1
Honestly, I think the vast majority of the staff structure could use a good reorganization....it was created in the midst of slight panic to fit the situation, but now that things have setlled it would be good to figure it out.
Honestly, don't see the need for Kira to be a mod....she's more than capable, but I think with the change in situation it would be just as easy for her to say "Hey, come look at this.". No need for the bueracracy in that situation.
the biggest problem is in the amount of time they spend on the board....I have to admit even discounting the move I finished I have been on less (I should be on a good deal more now though).
As for replacements, I have no issue with most the choices....but I think it would be best to test them somehow. Checking bios is actually rather easy (though frustrating at times), I'm more concern in the matter if they know the rules of the board. A good deal of them are from precedent and not actually written down. We can't have anyone else take the position if they're not at least familiar with the majority of them, and make sure that the ones chosen have the most knowledge of them.
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Post by Leon Loire on Mar 7, 2007 23:25:49 GMT 1
A test? I'll ask you this Kurtz: did MJ make you take an Admin exam when she decided to appoint you to the title of Moderator on the old board? She certainly did not with me. All I had to do was request it with some approval by Liam, and I found myself a purple name the next time I logged on.
All of the choices thus far have easily proven they have what it takes to understand and act out their duties as a Moderator. The only question is to who has the best opportunities for the current needs. But of all things, I think their experience and prestige is clearly enough to outrank a need for a "test." We've already gone through the hassles of testing out Admin-Lites, so let's just make a choice and live with it, right?
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Post by king on Mar 7, 2007 23:31:50 GMT 1
MJ wasn't known for being effective....I was passed over multiple from mod duties until I acted in all other mod absence...essentially ending the deabte right there. Then again, we are on a different board and are hopefully beyond her favoritist ways now.
Also, I have been on the site for so long I lived through the vast majority of the precedent...while it was debated. Sorry Leon, can't compare the two situations....even you had to learn some after becoming staff.
But your right, we could just make a choice and deal with the hassles it may bring....or we could just make it right the first time. I'm just the type of guy who doesn't mind the effort to get things right the first time.
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Mar 8, 2007 0:01:17 GMT 1
I daresay, just HOW do you assume we get it right first time then?
Sorry, but I've not appointed a single moderator I couldn't trust, and that DOES include you, remember. You think I just get up the VIP list, put on a blindfold and randomly click the screen? >.>
Yes, I accept that Kira has little need to be a moderator anymore, and that's something I will address in due time. Until then, move away from that. It's an irrelevant issue, in all honesty. Let's remember that Leaf was almost COMPLETELY inactive for a large amount of time as a moderator on the former site. Whilst I ALSO note that was due to circumstances outwith his control, also understand that in that instance, why was someone else not appointed?
Because, as you said, MJ did make some lousy decisions regarding the staff. Granted, she also made some good ones, but as it stands, I selected the moderators here based solely on their performance and activity on the OLD board.
If we're going to start considering a shakeup, I'll do the entire damned thing from scratch, how about this?
In two weeks, I will reappoint ALL MODERATORS, and ALL ADMIN-LITE.
No, this isn't a joke, no I'm not trying to threaten anyone, because that'd be pointless. I'm simply trying to set up a system on this site that works for everyone in terms of timing and the like. Trust me, you guys, if you want to put up nominations, do it now, because I'll close this thread in a week today.
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Post by jellar on Mar 8, 2007 0:03:51 GMT 1
Well, if that's the case, I'd hit up a Leon Loire as my nomination.
EDIT: Thank you for that, Odin. I mean Leon as a mod.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Mar 8, 2007 0:29:49 GMT 1
Leon's already stated he doesn't want to be an Admin-lite, so you should specify if you meant mod.
I'll post up suggests before I leave.
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Post by Leon Loire on Mar 8, 2007 2:03:44 GMT 1
I'll just come out and say thanks to good ol' Jellar for standing up to nominate me, even if it was unnecessary. It's good to know I'm doing something right. And to send it out there, I'd be willing to accept an Admin-Lite position if it's necessary, although I would prefer the lighter title of Moderator. Of course, one thing I'd like to amusingly request regarding the Admin-lite title is, whether I'm requested to take it or not, that its colors and name are changed. Yeah, I know, it's materialistic, but the blue name and the "lite" kind of urk me. Maybe if we stole Shamino's gold text and called it "Global Moderator," it'd look more professional?
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Mar 8, 2007 5:46:54 GMT 1
Ouch. I actualy liked my position. Infact, a few people (no names said) told me it was 'A long time coming' or 'why wasn't it done sooner'
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Mar 8, 2007 5:54:04 GMT 1
Ouch. I actualy liked my position. Infact, a few people (no names said) told me it was 'A long time coming' or 'why wasn't it done sooner' Just because a shakeup will begin doesn't necessarily mean EVERY place will be changed. Don't start getting paranoid.
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Post by Kira Karyuudo, Hikari on Mar 8, 2007 17:08:43 GMT 1
Honestly, don't see the need for Kira to be a mod....she's more than capable, but I think with the change in situation it would be just as easy for her to say "Hey, come look at this.". We knew this, and even before he came out here, were discussing it. Much as I don't mind being mod and checking over profiles (and subsequently forgetting to change their tags to their class status ^^;; ), making sure things are in line and such, I realize I haven't been active (hence Nick's Omake xD). It doesn't reflect well anyway, so if anything, just due to that fact, I don't mind being demoted. If I'm not active enough to sustain it, I shouldn't have it, even if there have been others before me that have taken an extended leave of absence. Especially considering, as you said, I can call Liam over any time...and whisper over his shoulder. In any case... Mods. John/Leon, whatever you want to call him ( ), I believe is one of the better ones to choose and keep on the moderating list. As for those others on the staff list... Paul's doing well enough, James wasn't always as actively checking profiles on the previous board, blah blah blah. In short, I don't feel much like commenting on you two. You do your jobs, that's what counts. Maverik/Nick: heeeey, it's you! Good guy, knows his stuff, 'nuff said. Keep him on, I vote. Emil/Donar/Kvist/...well, any of the other names he's had: aside from apparently being annoyed I'd forgotten him... He's...okay. Kidding. He's pretty good, even if there might be a spoof-up here and there. Pffft, anyhoo, despite whatever small oopsies there might have been, he's pretty solid for a mod. We all make mistakes, and hell, we all need to improve anyway. New recruits? Leesa/Ran/Amelia: She's been a long-standing member of the site, and knows the ropes. She's got an eye for detail, so checking over profiles wouldn't be that hard for her... Aside from that, she's a FEMALE (we need more of them on staff ). That's a semi-joke there...just a bit. >.> Anyhoo, Tyler? Adam? Good enough kids (yes, kids, damnit ), I don't have much to say about them, though. Sorry guys, I just can't think of anything. ^^;; If either were promoted, I'd be happier 'an a tornado in a trailer park, though. In other words, it'd be a good decision, either way. Sjoerd/Kokaku: sure, why not? I'd just second the reasons John put in for him, really...as I don't have anything new to contribute. Ryan/Dain: -Gasp!- HIM?! Well, yeah, as long as he gets his bootie in gear and gets active more. Another guy who's good at what he had done. Aaaaaand, I think that's my bit, brackets and all.
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Post by John Smith on Mar 8, 2007 18:20:24 GMT 1
Gee, thanks for crap, Tanya...
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Post by Kira Karyuudo, Hikari on Mar 8, 2007 18:24:14 GMT 1
Gee, thanks for crap, Tanya... Fluff off. >.> I'll add you now, ya buuuuuuuuum. Can't remember everyone. In fact, I had to edit and add some of the few I forgot before. <.<
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Mar 8, 2007 18:54:13 GMT 1
So basically Tanya, you just noted that every current admin/mod and almost every VIP could be possible candidates in your eyes Hehe, the little 'I don't want to piss anyone off' talk about mods Anyway, the question we should ask ourselves is, is a total new admin/mod team really required? Ah well, it's up to the head honcho I guess
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Post by jellar on Mar 8, 2007 22:49:38 GMT 1
Anyway, the question we should ask ourselves is, is a total new admin/mod team really required? Ah well, it's up to the head honcho I guess So I did bring that up. But the situation has changed (from what I'm inferring); a total reappointment is to occur, and rather than ask for new recruits, nominations are needed to be made. Hence, we need more nominations than John from me and then everyone one else on the board from Tanya.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Mar 8, 2007 22:59:54 GMT 1
Actualy, John/Leon iisn't what you'd call 'better' to keep on, imho.
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Post by king on Mar 9, 2007 9:36:49 GMT 1
Actually, I think he is, considering what the moderator position involves. With Admin-lites now, there will be much less need for moderators to say "Hey.....cut that out.", it'll be mostly bio checking and getting the day to day things worked out, except on the occasions that an admin isn't around to deal with the little things. Leon is could at that sort of thing.
Also, the reason I didn't check bios on the old board is because of a glitch on the site that frequently "Banned" me from the bio section...I literally couldn't for most of the time, and when I did I couldn't guarantee I would be able to for the.....longer bios.
Hence my harsh, up front, and brutal style of doing them evolved.
Anyway, I think we need to rework the system just because of the changes in active members. Lets face it..., it helps if staff is actually here.
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Post by Director Troutman on Mar 9, 2007 22:32:58 GMT 1
OMGWTF.
Yeah, I changed my mind a little, rather than wait two weeks, since few people are BOTHERING TO SUGGEST nominations (which leads me to a few conclusions, none of which are particularly settling to me aside from one), I'm going to shave a week off of the time. March 12th all mods and Admin Lite will be stripped of their titles, March 13/14th (depending on how quickly I get things sorted. Might take an hour, might take several. Believe it or not, I'm using paperwork to consider all of this.).
Enjoy ^^
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