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Post by Director Troutman on Mar 5, 2007 7:01:48 GMT 1
Right, this last week or so has made me realise quite a few things. We need to appoint a few new moderators.
As it stands, at the present moment and time, we have TWO active moderators, that is all. The admin-lites are subsiduaries of my job, and there is some difference. Mods check bios, keep the new players in order and the like, but if we don't have active mods, then what happens next?
Now, to the mods current, this is not a threat by any means, I've no intention of demoting you (Eric is the exception, as I explained personally to him). King will be back in time so I think if I appoint two more moderators then we'll be set at a reasonable balance.
The thing is, I'm asking you guys who you would like to see as a moderator. Now, there's a few rules to this, so read carefully. Anyone who does not follow as such will have their suggestion ignored.
You must pick board members who have been active at LEAST since the old Varron board, and had been there for about six months. In certain circumstances I will be lenient here depending on the other advantageous attributes a nominee has.
The person must be well known to the entire forum, even if just by name.
Their literacy must be good enough to correct spelling on poor bios, needless to say I think this one explains itself.
They must be an active member at the current time.
You must supply your own reason why you believe said character deserves to be put up for a moderators position. Let me note, this is not where you say 'Because they're cool'. This isn't about that, this is about you believing they are capable of helping to run this site WELL.
There will be no flaming or arguing with another voters choice. If someone chooses a person you don't think should be nominated, then keep it to yourself. Remember that I've been around long enough to know who deserves these nominations as well, so the dud entries will be skipped.
Well, I'll give you guys a little while to consider this, but I expect a few answers to start popping up very soon. This isn't a matter that can wait for long, y'know.
Liam.
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Mar 5, 2007 10:19:39 GMT 1
Well, to be honest, I guess a few names come to mind.... but let me ask a question first: What about the admin lites? Not to be a bitch but apart from active moderators, the board has also been missing an admin. No offense, I understand why, but you wanted to solve it yourself with your little admin lite scheme... you just noted that they are subsidiaries of your job... but what else and who will it be... as in, have you made up your mind? As for Moderators, three names come to mind but one is just an old habit I guess. Leaf, Kyukaku and Odin. Leaf however... I don't know, haven't seen him on the board too much(though that's probably my bad) and I doubt he'd be too happy to accept... apart from that he's not really putting himself out there anymore... he used to be quite known but at the moment, he lacks that... Kyukaku is a good choice due to his swift climb to power;) He has shown that he is a worthy rp-er and the resent tournament only added to that whole picture, despite the loss. I think he's cocky enough to be a good moderator too(no offense, just a little thing between me and him) but the only problem I can see with choosing him is that he is given a little too much power for just one man Than there is Odin. Strong, surely getting popular at the moment, a giant b*tch in the OOC, openly arguing with Shamino. I see a lot of things I see in the other moderators too in him... I guess he might be slightly bitchy at judging bios and the popularity might once more rise to his head but I guess that comes with the job. Come to think of it, Kvist might be the most suitable for the job atm....erm... [edit] I see he already is a moderator... I'll keep quiet... you guys just be nice to Emil, hmkay?
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Post by Maverik on Mar 5, 2007 12:47:28 GMT 1
What about Kokaku? He's been around for almost as long as myself, knows allot of the people, is stern but fair, and is relatively active. I'd vote for him.
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Post by k on Mar 5, 2007 14:06:22 GMT 1
I agree with Maverman on this one. Kokaku is the best choice atm.
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Post by Pain Killer on Mar 5, 2007 19:09:43 GMT 1
Just off the top of my head, I'd have to agree with Kyukaku being a mod. Mainly, because I saw how well he ran Evalise, up until circumstances beyond his control killed that board. Often times, I'd go to him when I was havin' a problem with members or such, to make sure I was doin' the right thing.
Kokaku, I would also agree with. He's been around as long as I can remember, and knows most if not all of the veterans on the board, which gives him a lot of experience to work with.
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Post by Director Troutman on Mar 5, 2007 20:28:46 GMT 1
For the note of those who either have not checked the thread in the VIP or are unable to see it, this is how things are as they stand.
Gilsin has announced his retirement, as a non-active player I decided (somewhat reluctantly) that it was in the sites best interests to appoint a new moderator in his stead. On top of that, Kira is rather inactive at the moment. With Kurtz also in the middle of his big move, that would leave us with Leon and now Emil as the two sole active moderators.
Now, the Admin Lites have been appointed, as you might notice around the boards. For those dense enough to NOT notice, Maverik and Shamino have been appointed to the positions.
However, I still intent to appoint at LEAST one new moderator, I might appoint two depending on how the site handles itself. As it stands we have a LOT of old bios in the non-approved that either need final checks or deletion, so that will be one factor in my decision.
Also, since I've noticed some people being slack in their reasoning, please explain in your own words why you would nominate your choice. Please, I need you guys to do your part here, alright?
I'm counting on you guys.
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Post by k on Mar 5, 2007 20:47:54 GMT 1
Well Ko has been around long enough to know how everything works, his english is rather awesome considering the fact that its not his native language. I beleive due to his experiance here he knows how to handle bios and I'm sure he can keep the board in one piece.
That would be all in the nutshell. Can't write anything more. Too tired.
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Post by Leon Loire on Mar 5, 2007 22:20:31 GMT 1
I think I've got three candidates that all would make fine Moderators in their own right, but then again, we should recognize what that right is. Let's start, shall we?
On the basis of Seniority, I vote for Kokaku Musha. He happens to be one of the most original members from the original Varron board that is still relatively active - regardless of his recent fallout - often helps out his friends in the Staff by noting members who have broken rules, help out those whenever he can, and is currently in the works of making a storyline that should help the board quite a bit. He's trustworthy, he's extremely literate for English as a secondary language, he's well known to the Staff and many others on the board, and he's good-willed. If you want a Senior member as a Moderator, then make my friend Sjoerjd a violet shade at long last.
On the basis of Proboard Admin experience, then look no further than Tyler "Kyukaku" Scott. He has been known as a "hot potential" since early autumn of last year, has risen up through the hierarchy extremely quickly, has befriended some of the best known names and fighters on the board, and is seen relatively as a good natured, level headed guy. Let's also not forget that alongside Pain Killer and others, he has done a strong job of running his Evalise board, and has been surrounded by Staff members such as Liam, Ryan, Tanya and myself for so long that he already understands board politics quiet well. If you need someone that can deal with things quickly and efficiently, then choose Kyukaku.
On the basis of intimidation and in-character fighting expertise, then there's no one else that the moment to turn to than our first tournament Champion, Odin Reeves. His creative quirks in the OOC have been known to deal with any matters that may lead to necessary Staff involvement, he is well educated in English and writing, he can relate much to the board members and the very foundation of the board itself, and he can represent a sector of the board population that is currently missing without Ein and Kurtz.
I believe that's the three I'd call for, but honestly, I'm not sure who's better. I'll leave that to you, Liam.
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Post by Kei on Mar 5, 2007 22:32:40 GMT 1
I think the most obvious choice would be my buddy Kokaku here. Why obvious? Well, his name has been mentioned the most thus far. I don't doubt the abilities of the other two, as Leon so greatly described their attributes. Ko' has the experience, has the RPing talent, and he knows the right people. His activity however... I really don't know if he's pretty active. If not, then there's no point. From what I understand, him and Emil both live in the same time zone (if not, then, nevermind). If you understand the point I'm trying to make, then, good.
However. If you need a moderator for only a temporary time (like for a week) then you may have to think about what times Kyu and Odin may be available- all your candidates in general. In any case, as it stands, just make Kyu, Ko, and Odin moderators all together. Two's better than one right? How about three? Of course... doing this will make room to worry unfortunately. Time is unluckily everything. Yeah.... I think this post is completely useless XD
~Manuel
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Post by Kyukaku on Mar 5, 2007 22:35:23 GMT 1
I agree that Sjoerdje would make a good mod. Even when he said he was leaving the boards for who knows how long, he came back what, a few days later? I could add to this, but then I'd just be repeating what John said only not as fancy.
As for myself, I would accept the position if offered, as it was one of my goals for god knows how long. I did Admin the evalise board, so I have experience in that sense too.
Another not brought up yet would be Pain Killer. Alongside me on Evalise he was the mod I relied on most. He puts in alot of time and thought into the boards both OOC and IC and is a good judge on what is acceptable or not. He has no problem putting his foot down and being the "bad guy" when its needed, but he always helps out when someone asks him to.
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Post by John Smith on Mar 5, 2007 23:39:55 GMT 1
Maybe 3 mods in Europe is a bit much? ... Me, Denmark, Kurtz, England, and Kokaku The Netherlands. ... Relatively in the same time zone, and we don't have a big enough european community to have that many located here...
Omg... I just sounded proffesional... Dear lord.
As much as I hate to say it, Pain Killer actually is a good choice. Since between him and Leon they can bitchslap any trouble makers in N. America. Kurtz moving to England [Meh thinks] and me sitting here with my 20-40 lbs labtop that requires constant power supply can easily handle things while Leon is sleeping.
I vote for Pain Killer.
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Post by saskai on Mar 5, 2007 23:46:23 GMT 1
Damn, Donar and Kyu beat me to it. I think that Pain Killer could be a good admin for most of the reasons Donar and Kyu stated.
EDIT: I am being forced to vkote for Kokaku. I cannot say who is blackmailing me.
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Mar 6, 2007 0:24:22 GMT 1
I thought about Pain killer for a while... and the only reason why I did not name him was simply because I don't know much about him... to be honest, I do know names usually or who they're linked with, cause I seem to keep track of those people. With Pain killer I just don't really know who he is... that's what I was about to change with following events...
Ow, as for admin expierence, I maintain two proboard boards as an admin... being an admin/moderator isn't so much as to knowing what buttons to click, the difficulty most likely lies in putting effort in it and making the right decision at the right time...
And Mayon is a liar...
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Post by jellar on Mar 6, 2007 0:45:45 GMT 1
Since this is an open-opinion thread, I'm going to state my opinion as a member of this board. I am not trying to create an opening for any hostile comments, I am merely stating my opinion.
I honestly don't see a need for another mod for this board. So far, I see the board running smoothly. Once King and Tanya return, things should be under order fairly well. If we pop in another mod, we'll have five mods grading bios. Some of those mods will not even have any work to do because of the great number of mods. Furthermore, I'd like to ask where Dain Gavyns is in all of this. (I have a very good guess that I'm 99% positive in, but I'd rather not share my opinions to the entire board.) If anything, he should be a number 1 candidate to be doing moderator work. (if he is not already doing so, and I don't see him doing it.)
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Post by Kokaku Musha on Mar 6, 2007 0:49:04 GMT 1
Dain Gavyns has been inactive for the last few months, hence why no one calls his name I reckon. As for five mods being around, I can understand your point Jellar but take into consideration that a Moderator should not be busy 100% of the time by moderating and checking bios. A mod should check through the bios, check for any violations of the rules, check pmes for perhaps helping people and than write posts as well... mods are also rpers... Leon for instance writes bloody epics... Give the guy some slack and time to post his epics while not having to push it into a few minutes of work because he's the only bio checker
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Post by taru on Mar 6, 2007 3:35:43 GMT 1
i say shamino cuz hes like always on...
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Post by Pain Killer on Mar 6, 2007 3:43:57 GMT 1
i say shamino cuz hes like always on... He's an Admin-lite.
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Post by saskai on Mar 6, 2007 3:59:51 GMT 1
i say shamino cuz hes like always on... He's an Admin-lite. And I do not believe that is a legitimate reason. He is an admin lite but he has a lot more reasons then just being on for long periods of time.
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Post by Dain Gavyns on Mar 6, 2007 4:04:48 GMT 1
Dain Gavyns is an asshole that can NOT be trusted. He's a bastard-coated bastard with a bastard filling.
Now that's out of the way:
I want to say Kokaku, but sometimes I feel like ol' Sjoerdje's absolute dependency on the rules would actually detract from it. I think what a Mod is really all about is not to simply read from the rules and lay down the law, but to interpret the rules' actual meanings and moderate where it's truly necessary. While I don't think Ko' wouldn't be able to do that, sometimes I just wonder if he'd get too bogged down in the letters and red tape and not stop to say 'well is this really necessary?' Regardless, he's still a top candidate.
For newer blood, Kyu and Pain Killer are both nominal choices, but in the end, I would say it'd be overkill to take both of them, and, well, I'd have to choose Painy boy. After all, while both of them have an impressive active spree, Pain is almost always around, plus he's got the qualities that it seems each of our mods tend to only have one side: Fairness, and heavy-handedness. From what I've seen on the Evalise board, Pain was one of the first to stop the BS before it could get out of hand, but from what I've spoken to him personally, he's an honest, decent guy that can tell you what's going on in a direct manner, yet not so blunt as to appear rude.
Finally, while I'm not actually saying I'm voting for myself, I thought I'd just let this largely-trafficked post be my way of saying "Hey guys... I think I'm gonna get more active again in the very near future."
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Post by Maverik on Mar 6, 2007 5:25:08 GMT 1
I agree with Dain... Dain's a real asshat. Pain Killer could possibly make for a decent mod... Especially with the idea of not having 3 European mods leaving poor old Leon to fend for himself. Unless you're on sporadic hours... It's hard for me to tell, being the only one in my timezone which sits snugly in between everyone else. Though in the future.
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