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Post by Kei on Dec 25, 2006 21:30:48 GMT 1
Alright. As most of you know, on XIN one, our Varron Academy held various tournaments in which students can participate and fight each other... for no apparent reason XD. But, seriously. These fights allowed all of us (well, those who spoke up before the deadline) to RP with each other all different kinds of fights, and helped us with our character's storyline immensely. However, on to the point..
What I wanna suggest is, since Hircine is focused on disciplining for peace, lets have our Varron transfers be the ones who start the tournaments. Story wise (and by that, I mean someone with a lot of XIN one history), I think someone like Gilsin or Leaf should one day be around town, (or of course in the woods) and hold a "tournament" "in honor" of the old ways of Varron. After time it escalates, becoming a big thing and it would be willing to welcome the students from Varron, and Hircine. It's not perfect, but it's an idea. I think it could be a good basis for instant disgust of Hircinians toward Varronites.
~Manuel
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 25, 2006 21:37:44 GMT 1
I like the idea of a Varronite being the first to start a tournament for the students here in Hircine, however I have a problem seeing how it can grow. The way I see it if a tournament started in the woods, or even in a vacant building, it wouldn't draw much attention from the students, and thus it would take at least a year to finally build moment.
So, I think someone with a bit more Authority, perhaps Taiku or Shamino should really put it out there as a monthly thing. It would just appeal more to everyone, both sides, seeing as neither are attending school, and thus can't really be considered transfers. However, that's how I'd see it working more IC, I'm still more in favour of your idea though.
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Post by Leon Loire on Dec 25, 2006 22:45:21 GMT 1
I do like the idea of a Varronite restoring the idea of tournament combat in Hircine, however, the idea of starting out small doesn't really cut it. The School Pillars would frown upon it and use various tactics to isolate us, and those Hircine fighters that like combat would most likely get jealous and start a competition of their own.
That's IC wise, at least; knowing people IRL, they'd all join our tournaments for the hell of it.
For realism, I suggest reviving the Fighter's League, founded by Dain Gavyns and The Edge. The original idea of these tournaments was to have something different then MJ's old same-as-old tournament, where two combatants were randomly chosen, called up via cell phone, and told the place and locale of their battle. There, they would meet each other, and whom ever walked away conscious was victorious.
Therefore, considering the original concept of this League was for The Edge and Crepps to host these battles for profit via gambling and entertainment, then we could have our local kingpins exploit the show, and have its former member Dain Gavyns as the host.
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Post by greatest on Dec 26, 2006 0:07:46 GMT 1
Alright. Perfect. Thanks for the input.
~Manuel
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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Dec 26, 2006 0:33:07 GMT 1
Hell, we'd snicker and enter yours, just to continue to prove Varron is nothing but garbage.
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Post by leaf on Dec 26, 2006 1:03:11 GMT 1
Well it's to be expected that being in a completely new area that supposedly promotes peace would cause a slow start. While having someone with more resources and influence like Taiku or Shamino start it would cause things to grow much faster, wouldn't it also attract more attention than you really want? But, if the intention is in memory of Varron's fighters then it does not matter if it starts and grows slow. I mean take Fight Club, it started out small...just a crazy person beating himself up before other people showed up wanting a fight. Anywho, if anything, it's a thread idea
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Dec 26, 2006 3:10:10 GMT 1
Duly noted guys, but I'd like to hear some more ideas on this if you don't mind....This goes out to everyone, if you have some suggestions on how to reinstate a 'tournament' style system here, without reverting to the old method, please don't hesitate to share them here.
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Post by junpei on Dec 26, 2006 3:13:48 GMT 1
I never really participated, but maybe a divisional branch should be made? Gards, Junior senior, and Sophmore-freshmen?
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Post by Dean on Dec 26, 2006 3:14:27 GMT 1
i was thinking that maybe the hircine high student (like the captain and the pillairs) could hold tournaments where they place varron students together to fight and hircine students to fight then at the end of it they have 1 hircine and 1 varron student fighting to see who is the strongest and best school, since a few of the varron students either want violence or total domination it could appeal to a few people, and the ones who want respect could ear it this way.
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Post by pinefresh on Dec 26, 2006 4:28:39 GMT 1
Dean that is an awsome idea however for right now I could not see it working. I say this simply because of the Hircine student to Varron Student ratio. Simply put, there are many more of you then there are of us at the momment. Even if this is Hircine High most of the Hircine students are still NPC's. So until the new blood starts flowing in and closing the gap yout idea for a tournament would be rather one-sided so I would have to agree with fighters league idea.
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Post by Odin Reeves on Dec 26, 2006 4:31:37 GMT 1
No one's saying that tournaments are going to start up right away. However, I have to disagree with Deans idea altogether.
Varron students, aside from personal objectives, are trying to blend in and become Hircine students, as such if you group them out, even moreso then they already are, then it'll just slow down the process.
I'm content with the fighters league. That way whether your a transfer or not doesn't matter.
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Post by Tiao Lei Shen on Dec 26, 2006 5:20:09 GMT 1
I still go with my idea on Hircine Student Council holding tournaments as a way to "Curb the aggression of the new students"
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Post by Darren Blayne on Dec 26, 2006 5:32:03 GMT 1
Even if we are in this together, I think Tiao's on to something here.
Varron kids like to fight, for the most part. However, the Hircine Hierarchy doesn't want to see rampant violence overtake their school. It seems like the best way to solve both problems would be to give the students an outlet to vent that aggression in a series of controlled schoolyard brawls.
We could set it up just outside the school, or maybe designate a place away from the school to keep away the bad rap that fighting usually is accompanied with, and just let the Varronites, and any Hircinians that may want to compete, duke it out. Y'know, all for the love of the fight, or the glory of the victory, or all that.
Then perhaps once more of our Graduates and Entrepreneurs are around and ready to take over San Francisco outside of the school, a more official Fighter's League like what was sort of around in the old XinRP could be reinstated.
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Post by Leon Loire on Dec 26, 2006 7:46:49 GMT 1
I think it's time for a compromise.
Considering in the old board we had the classic tournament style established by MJ, and the Fighters' League suggested by Dain, then I don't see why that, instead of choosing just one system, we eventually open up to two.
Right now having a tournament is a no-go, especially since we're still in need of simply comforting ourselves with the board.
However, I never saw anything wrong with having MJ's monthly tournament alongside Dain's constant Fighters' League. Tiao's idea of having the Hircine Council using controlled tournaments to relieve tensions works out perfectly for the "peace" factor; therefore, the school itself (meaning Mr. Captain) could host ring matches of two chosen combatants in a timed battle (one week=fifteen minutes?), following classic rules and procedures. This arena would be our "Controlled Tournament."
But then again, we all know like hell that a controlled, stale-as-brick tournament cannot act as our only source of beloved blooshed! A bit of variability is needed to quench the thirst of the infamous Varronites!
Therefore, after one or two runs of the "Hircine Monthly Tournament", our own Dain Gavyns would revive the Fighter's League, allowing students more freedom.
While I doubt we'll be roleplaying the tournaments until mid January at the latest, I feel that keeping to one system is rather dull. Why have one great system when you can have two?
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Post by king on Dec 27, 2006 0:02:44 GMT 1
My character has a history of holding tournaments at the new school, in fact one such tournament was the reason he was asked to become a pillar, to keep him controlled. He agreed to keep such illegal contests and gambling out of school grounds.....but that never stopped him from using his gambling connections and other such goodies from doing it off grounds.
I have the power to hold one and the authority to get away with it. It's an outlet for the aggression of students, plus a good way to scout those who need a good beating. It fits perfectly.
Also, since my character would be host, I wouldn't be able to enter, which I think most would enjoy not having to worry about.
As for a reason to enter besides wanting to beat the ever living bejesus out of another student, the gambling back drop means that
1. Students would not only have a reason to watch but could gamble on the winner. This allows for people to possibly cheat to get the outcome they desire (though if they get caught I will beat them senseless)
2. Students who aren't kung fu crazy will enter to get the large amounts of prize money (not 200, with gambling we're talking about measuring it in 1000's for placing here). This means there is always plot devices for entering, instead of it always being a "why not" for students.
So yeah, I think my idea covers all plot-holes, adds a new dimension to it, and actually adds storyling to what had become another routine in Varron.
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