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Post by sylvan on Apr 6, 2008 21:29:39 GMT 1
Just a suggestion, to make the whole writing a bio process easier:
Insert the code for the template on the page the template is on. That way the bio can be filled out without a ton of deleting.
example:
[b]Name:[/b] [b]Age:[/b]
Tags for the code are: " "
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Post by Shuya Katsumoto on Apr 6, 2008 22:15:52 GMT 1
People want to write their bio's in different ways. Some people may want to use bold, while others prefer italic and others just normal writing... than there are those who prefer to use colors. Giving them the standard template with no codes addes is the best option here since people will only need to add what they want and do not need to remove tags they don't want... also, the information that the template asks for is supposed to be in the bio, but does not need to be formulated directly so.
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Post by sylvan on Apr 6, 2008 22:18:16 GMT 1
It's just a hassle to do that deleting. D=
You could do this:
-Basic bio requirements here-
Without adding in the bold or italics or any of that, allowing customization.
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Post by August Velway on Apr 6, 2008 22:51:46 GMT 1
Yeah, that would be a real nice bit of help. I wouldn't mind the admin making some quick modifications to add that. Can't see how it'd hurt, anyway.
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Post by Director Troutman on Apr 6, 2008 22:53:43 GMT 1
People want to write their bio's in different ways. Some people may want to use bold, while others prefer italic and others just normal writing... than there are those who prefer to use colors. Giving them the standard template with no codes addes is the best option here since people will only need to add what they want and do not need to remove tags they don't want... also, the information that the template asks for is supposed to be in the bio, but does not need to be formulated directly so. Pretty much the answer, but to clarify a point or two... The information put into the bio template is there for a reason. Believe it or not, there's several occasions where members have been unable to grasp the concept of what was expected in a bio. Yes, it makes for some deleting, but for all the time it takes in the process of writing a bio, seriously, I'm not going to change it. There's no need for it.
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Post by Nathan Branigan on Apr 6, 2008 23:46:22 GMT 1
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Apr 6, 2008 23:56:35 GMT 1
; Lord forbid that we do something as strenuous as highlighting sections and pressing the backspace key! That aside, there was copy/paste coded bio template at one of the XIN RPB's I used to go to and I have to say, I was even tempted to suggest the same thing here... Especially when I was working on my own bio two years ago. However, though the instructions were very elaborate about what to have, how much is the recommended amount of information, and even suggestions on how to make the bio more personalized and creative... ...Of course, there were folks who ignored all that. What difference would it make to copy a code and ignore instructions when you can do the same as it is without a code? The coded template made it "easier to ignore things". The simplest way to approve bios at the time was to say: "Obviously, someone needs to reread the template more carefully." To me, though a bit of a hassle, the extra time put into a bio will show and it makes it all the more impressive and presentable when reviewed. To each their own, I guess. (I typed something incomprehensible, didn't I.) [EDIT]: Here it is.
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Post by sylvan on Apr 7, 2008 0:28:50 GMT 1
Ja, that's what I was aiming for.
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Post by Director Troutman on Apr 7, 2008 0:33:19 GMT 1
Ja, that's what I was aiming for. (With no disrespect to the former 552 admin) What? A seven post bio explanation? ^^;;; Or a coded template afterward? For whatever merit, someone is currently convincing me it's a jolly good idea to do that. So I might. Watch this space. Well, not THIS space, but the bio space...bit....thing.
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Post by Leon Loire on Apr 7, 2008 0:42:59 GMT 1
You know, that old admin knew what the hell she was doing. It's big as hell, but at least it's well organized.
In any case, good suggestion you two, I think it might be a nice asset to the board. But we'll see if Liam feels up to it.
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Post by sylvan on Apr 7, 2008 0:45:02 GMT 1
The coded template afterward. >_______>
But yes, making it perfectly clear to people that have half a brain that they must read and understand the requirements for each section is a good idea too. That way they won't copy/paste the coded template without reading.
AND THEN YOU CAN POUR BOILING OIL ON THEM IF THEY DISOBEY! O=
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Post by Director Troutman on Apr 7, 2008 0:52:52 GMT 1
AND THEN YOU CAN POUR BOILING OIL ON THEM IF THEY DISOBEY! O= Yeah, you and I are gonna get along juuuust fine. ^^
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Post by Kei on Apr 7, 2008 4:39:43 GMT 1
Yeah... I think it's better that we not do that (had to italicize something since everyone else did >_>). Not only is it unnecessary, it's up to the RPer whether or not they want their sheet to look "professional." Most of us can be used as examples, as we didn't know how to (or actually just didn't find it important) bold something, but now it'd be like blasphemy if we didn't bold or italicize the name of the sections. In the end it just determines how the newcomer wants to be looked at.
The descriptions don't need to be (well obviously), but they shouldn't be changed. It keeps everything together, so the person won't "forget" what they have just read before. I'll admit, the new option looks organized and clean cut, but isn't it really the same as ours just REALLY spaced out in between the categories? How much detail do we have to make the individual posts before it sounds repetitive, and just plain unnecessary to have made so many posts in the first place? We have a QnA section, a Faq section, and many examples of "average" bios to "great" bios.
(just broke the paragraph in half, don't like a large chunk of text anymore) And even on XIN1, I think it was Liam who had given five great examples (bios) on the template to give an idea of what could be done. Aside from that, it would be normally the Newb Supervisors that had helped a newcomer get approved to keep on assisting that RPer, as a type of mentor to help them get their feet off the ground. That's why we moderators are here, that's why the VIP are put to existence. (Before I had asked for NewbSupervisors to be our titles again, but as John refused because it seemed unprofessional, I refuse now because the principles and old successful ways of working aren't shown anymore)
Normally, I'd say that the better off someone starts, well, the better. They'll learn how to grasp RPing faster and in some cases show some huge potential. It's just that some newcomers (or people in general) have to understand that there's some information regarding categories that doesn't have to be put down, so they could reveal it/accomplish it during RP threads. Too much explanation on what should be supplied for a section could put that in danger, and I really don't want that. We're aiming for people to RP something they like, or will grow to like from ideas inspired from other RPers.
~Manuel
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