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Post by Leon Loire on Feb 21, 2008 18:56:55 GMT 1
DOUBLE POST!!! I was just looking through CNN.com and found this article: Utah Student carrying concealed weapon to class. I thought this was more than befitting of the discussion, especially in response to the 2nd Amendment issue. And I'll tell you right now, I found the article both darkly amusing and rather disturbing. And I'll respond to your comments later Rollins, as I have an ample way to counter.
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Post by Jack Lifeson on Feb 21, 2008 19:16:43 GMT 1
If he has a license, he should be able to. That's what CCW's are for.
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You think you have demons? My past is riddled with more than just your average demons.
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Post by Felix on Feb 21, 2008 19:52:46 GMT 1
This constitutional right bullsh!t is really getting to me. Gun laws need to be stricter and more enforced. I don't care what the Constitution says, considering our Govt. walks all over our rights all the time anyways. Time for the gun nuts to take a hit.
And no one should be carrying a weapon to a SCHOOL. AN INSTITUTE OF LEARNING! Whats the kid gonna do, go play show and tell, or is he gonna knock of the 7-11 next to the University? Oh wait, he shot up his classmates, too bad we didn't see that one coming.
Im sorry, but letting people carry concealed weapons is not the answer, legalized or not. If another shooting were to take place, there would be too many potential 'heroes' in that situation, and a lot more collateral damage to people and the campus.
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Feb 21, 2008 20:12:37 GMT 1
Aside from the requirements that go into getting a permit, I'm curious about what kind of training and procedures they go through in terms of using the gun (responsibly and such). Looking at it from a different point of view, I'm fine with CCW's so long as it's like driving a car or some other systemized privilege, so to speak. Like, self-defense procedures start the moment someone else pulls out a gun and to pull out a gun in any other circumstance would be illegal.
If everyone knows what's going on, I think it'd be a little easier to stomach. Hopefully, it won't lead to another DARE, MAD, or some other group that'll make things more difficult.
And lastly, I think my mom said that learning how to shoot a gun would be more practical than a bow and arrow... Unfortunately, looks like I'm doomed either way in CA.
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Post by Jack Lifeson on Feb 21, 2008 20:50:38 GMT 1
to draw a weapon on a person in the event of self defense, depending on the area, is generally 3 punches/pushes/attempts to assault. If they pull a blunt or sharp weapon (extendable, knife), or if they go for a fire arm themselves. The student came out of the curtains with a shotgun and fired into the audience, he was on stage. Had several students completed CCW training and basic firearms training, there may of been several injuries, maybe one death, and the shooter would of been riddled with rounds.
Restricting gun laws only makes citizens vulnerable. Guns will always be around, they can always be attained by the law or not, it's better to have citizens with registered firearms who have it for a legitimate reason than to have a bunch of filed off serial numbers in the hands of rapists and robbers- or school shooters.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six, thanks.
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