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Post by shabazz on Apr 11, 2007 4:55:48 GMT 1
Internet Relay Chat. Although this form of conversation has been around for quite sometime I have just discovered it recently while playing the doujin fighter gone japanese arcade hit: Melty Blood. While attending an MBR forum I discovered IRC. That's when the idea came to me. Why don't we set up an IRC for the XIN boards. Two great things can come from this. Gaining an IRC channel can be a source of advertising by bringing new members to the room. And 2 it can be like the Xin weekly chat only 24 hours. Consider this idea isn't original I'm sure someone else has brought this idea up, so please don't bash me if there are flaws with this suggestion. So what do you think??
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Post by Leon Loire on Apr 11, 2007 5:15:30 GMT 1
Kind of hard to bash it in the first place if we don't even really understand what an IRC is. Some of us (particularly, me) are technologically outdated. If you could explain, it'd be appreciated.
At the same time, we still have the use of MSN IM as a good Xin Chat. There's no way of arguing that it'll bring more people either, considering we're not even sure of it. Rather, it may be easier to simply keep to what most people can understand.
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Apr 11, 2007 5:23:42 GMT 1
Chat Feature?I'm not COMPLETELY sure if the thread provided is relevant, but I felt compelled to bring it up for some reason... What with IRC, Java, and chat mlomping together in my skull into one general subject...
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Post by shabazz on Apr 11, 2007 5:27:22 GMT 1
Lol, and here I thought that everyone knew what that was! Okay Well, Internet Relay Chat, or IRC is basically a simple way for people to chat. Similar to MSN IM people simply log on and chat. The only difference is that you gain a chatroom that is open 24/7 and you don't need to go through the process of making some Instant messenger account in order to use it. This is a way to eliminate the barrier of people getting several different accounts on several different IM providers in order to chat. It also provides several ranks with the chat permission. Say for example is Liam got an IRC channel he can enlist as an OP which is the admin of the room and have the moderators be Half OPs. This is an advantages and it prevents people (not implying that people would do such) from doing stupid stuff such as spam or whatever. There are also other perks of an IRC channel and although I know it may be easier to go with most people can understand it's just something I wanted to throw in the air to see if people were interested. P.S oh BTW it also supports easy file transfer. For more info on Internet Relay Chat see here ------> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat |
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Post by Odin Reeves on Apr 11, 2007 5:36:13 GMT 1
If this is hosted by codes on the board, It's already a no-no. However, if it's outside of the board and doesn't slow it down, then I personally have no problem with it...yet.
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Post by shabazz on Apr 11, 2007 5:38:23 GMT 1
Well Your in luck ^^ From what I know and have seen. There are two ways. A java client which Valencia already noted, and a downloaded clients such as Hydra IRC or MIRC. So I'm sure that doesn't slow down the bored.
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Post by jellar on Apr 12, 2007 1:21:12 GMT 1
I can't believe none of you know what IRC is. Perhaps it's more easily recognize as "mIRC."
Shabazz, it seems like a great idea, though considering how unpopular it is with the other members of the board it has a good chance of having idle channels that aren't used.
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Post by Maverik on Apr 12, 2007 2:58:23 GMT 1
Ok, I'm gonna write this out in the simplest format possioble... IRC is a server that allows people to make chat rooms without the hassle of running them on their own server and slowing it down. The primary way to access these chat rooms is through the program mIRC. Once downloaded, you simply pick a screen name, log into the server that your char room is on, and join it. There's no need to get any more technical than that really. In essence, it's a chat program. |
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Post by Kazuki Akimoto on Apr 12, 2007 9:40:27 GMT 1
Doesn't seem a BAD idea, but unless one of the high-speed internet members is gonna deal with this we're kinda stuck. Dialup, not to mention this isn't MY computer.
Overall, I'm thinking it's a fairly good idea ^^
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Post by Dain Gavyns on Apr 12, 2007 21:13:18 GMT 1
It's still quite easy for those who are on dialup to download the program, anyway. I used to go on IRC when I was on dialup as well.
It's just a matter of getting the program, seeing as IRC hosts the chat servers for you, no one's bandwidth will be excessively sucked up by it.
I think this is a great idea in theory, my only concern is how many people would actually bother to get on it.
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Post by king on Apr 13, 2007 2:58:00 GMT 1
We do not need a 24/7 form of communication for things done on a 24/7 form of communication.....we also advertise from where people are going to find out about the source material from...lifepointone and newgrounds.
As Liam said, not a bad idea....but far from a good one.
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Post by Dain Gavyns on Apr 13, 2007 4:12:34 GMT 1
Not to be a devil's advocate or anything, but if someone were to set up said channel for us, would it be so bad to have one, anyway?
It's not that I'm going to go ahead and just say "Screw you, Kurtzatron, I'm doing what I want!" I was just figuring... if someone wanted to, why not do it anyway? We wouldn't need to resort to it instead of our usual XinChats, hell, we probably wouldn't, for the most part, use it anyway, but I don't see why the possibility of having one would be so bad.
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Post by shabazz on Apr 13, 2007 4:28:27 GMT 1
I agree with Dain on this one. It's not like an IRC would hurt the board in anyway. And I'm sure that people would like to discuss things from time to time. I just suggested this because it eliminates one missing an OFFICIAL Xin chat because technically the official XIN chat would always be in affect.
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Post by king on Apr 13, 2007 22:21:53 GMT 1
If your going to miss a xinchat, your going to miss a xinchat....it's the time that it takes place, not the location.
Sure it wouldn't hurt....maybe it wouldn't hurt.....but iit would be another thing the staff would need to keep track of.
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Post by Leon Loire on Apr 13, 2007 22:29:02 GMT 1
I would be perfectly fine with it to be honest, and would be happy for us to leave this IRC Chat for other Xin Chats as well, however, I am not willing to end the MSN Xin Chat, and also recognize that it'd more than likely just be a mass spam system, since we'd only check on important matters when a Moderator prepares it. We can't just randomly throw out an idea when no one knows about it ahead of time. It has to be known ahead of time for those interested to listen or insert their own input.
And I note already that I'll be leaving this for another Moderator to deal with. Technology is not my thing, and I'm already a bit overwhelmed right nwo keep an eye on a chat server.
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Post by king on Apr 13, 2007 22:43:35 GMT 1
That's my stance if it acctually happens....if you can get a moderator to look after it themselves, I don't see a problem...but it isn't going to be me.
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Post by Maverik on Apr 15, 2007 2:13:56 GMT 1
I would be perfectly fine with it to be honest, and would be happy for us to leave this IRC Chat for other Xin Chats as well, however, I am not willing to end the MSN Xin Chat, and also recognize that it'd more than likely just be a mass spam system, since we'd only check on important matters when a Moderator prepares it. We can't just randomly throw out an idea when no one knows about it ahead of time. It has to be known ahead of time for those interested to listen or insert their own input. That's exactly why I think the IRC would be good personally. When we hold an official Xin Chat, allot of people just want to muck around because it's rare that they get to. But if they already do it regularly, then perhaps the official ones would stay on important matters longer and more effectively. That said, I guess I could try and set a room up and maintain it. It won't be as watched as it will when I have my own computer again... But we can cross that bridge when we come to it. EDIT: As long as someone else can at the very least direct me to a 'How To' guide. IRC isn't an easy system to operate. |
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Post by Dain Gavyns on Apr 15, 2007 9:12:52 GMT 1
Since I was kinda the first mod to REALLY stick up for the IRC idea, I'll take up the task of being on it. Granted, with work and real life, I won't actually be ON the channel all the time, but you'll always see Dain there, making sure the channel remains ours.
Anyway, with that said, Shabazz and I already tested out the IRC idea, more for fun and just to see if it would work than anything, so, we, as of now, have an official unofficial XinChat that's not actually a XinChat. And if you bother trying to follow that previous sentence, I'll slap you.
Anyway, here's how to get a hold of it:
1. First, download the necessary program to log on to IRC. (mIRC is one, Maverik, I do believe, posted some others as well.)
2. Install and run the software. (Obviously) Ensure that you let the installer set up the updated list of known servers, it'll make certain that you have the server we're on in your list.
3. Setup is easy, you don't need to put any information you don't want (all that's required is that you fill in the blanks, you don't need to give it the right information, I'm led to believe.) For your user name, please enter your character's name for ease of conversation with others. For the alternate name, anything is okay, perhaps your real name if you so choose to let it be known to the rest of us.
4. To the left of this information should be a list of options to click on. Click on the word "Servers" and a list of servers will be brought up. Search through the list for 'NightStar' and press the Select button on the right side of the window. It should take you back to the original screen, where you'd simply click 'Connect to Server'.
4a. If, for some reason, Nightstar is not available on your server list, you will have to add it manually, which isn't much more difficult. Simply click 'Add', four buttons above 'Select', and it'll bring you to a new window. Under "Description", type either "NightStar", "XinRP Server," or whatever you wish, that part is more for your benefit than anything. For the IRC Server blank, type in this, exactly, without the quotations: "irc.nightstar.net". For port, put in any number from 6665 to 6669, or for a wider range, type 6665-6669. Finally, under Group, type NightStar. Leave the password section blank, you won't need one for this. Finally, click "OK", then Select on the previous window, and THEN click 'Connect to Server."
5. Give it a few moments and you should be connected to a random NightStar server. From there, a new window will pop up, asking you for the name of hte channel you wish to join. Instead of selecting one from the list, simply type in the available box, again without the quotes: "#xinrp1". This should take you to the chatroom, Dain should be at the top, and wha-bam, there you are.
Now, keep in mind these directions are for mIRC, and may be slightly different for other programs, but I couldn't fathom that they'd be SO different you couldn't make these work for your program as well.
So, yeah, from here out, we should have our own dedicated little Hircine High channel.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Apr 16, 2007 5:35:57 GMT 1
if my IRC wasn't dedicated to my Ultima Online server i'd be all up on this.
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