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Post by Odin Reeves on Jan 16, 2007 5:54:27 GMT 1
It's basically like the last FMA movie, if you've happened to see it. If you havn't, you won't understand and I'll just remain quiet.
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Post by Kei on Jan 16, 2007 7:02:19 GMT 1
Dont like it. Some way, some how, Xin has to be involved. Make it fit, do anything. Him and the crew HAVE to be involved. This wouldn't be a XIN Rpb. It'd a Varron RPB.
~Manuel
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Post by John Smith on Jan 16, 2007 18:41:53 GMT 1
Wasn't that what the old boards was about? The same system, different story.
Why should it change now that we changed to a new city, where none of the xin chars, supposedly, never went?
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 16, 2007 23:47:03 GMT 1
Emil, the problem here is that we never actually set solid rules or boundaries on "what was what." We never officially accepted that we were in the same Xin Universe; we all just shrugged and said "Do whatever."
Pretty much, I'm willing to live without the Xin Universe, considering we still have the idea of the Corporal Punishment System, and the influence of our own time in Varron, but I'm concerned that if too many people disagree with allowing connection to Xin directly, then we should simply drop it.
Now, to throw it back out, my suggestion for a solid basis would be:
1985: Promotion and foundation of the Corporal Punishment System by Dimir. (Same basic timeline as our own, with the addition of the System and it's after-effects.)
1995: The fall of Dimir by Xin and the rest of the Flash crew.
2004-2005: Ten years later, the System has rebound in Varron Academy, and a new generation of teenage fighters rebel against the system.
2007: The rebelling students of Varron are sent to Hircine High, after the final fall of the Academy.
So let's be blunt: say what YOU want in a post, write it out, and explain why you want it. Try to avoid arguing with anyone else's opinion. Just get it out there.
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Post by John Smith on Jan 16, 2007 23:53:27 GMT 1
No that is not a problem Leon. I saw countless bios, back in the Long way to go and VIP status that people who even remotely mentioned anything related to any xin char or anything would get a massive kick in the balls and requested to have it changed. And yes, that might not mean we aren't in the same universe, but that certainly means we can't use the chars name... And that is in my point of view, the only reason we should exist within the same boundaries as the xin chars. If they're not around, why should we even be in the same universe?
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Post by Kei on Jan 17, 2007 1:30:53 GMT 1
Now, to throw it back out, my suggestion for a solid basis would be: 1985: Promotion and foundation of the Corporal Punishment System by Dimir. (Same basic timeline as our own, with the addition of the System and it's after-effects.) 1995: The fall of Dimir by Xin and the rest of the Flash crew. 2004-2005: Ten years later, the System has rebound in Varron Academy, and a new generation of teenage fighters rebel against the system. 2007: The rebelling students of Varron are sent to Hircine High, after the final fall of the Academy. Perfect. That's all. ~Manuel
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Post by Odin Reeves on Jan 17, 2007 1:34:22 GMT 1
I really don't care, so as long as no one else cares, or they're happy with it, It works.
Yep.
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Post by Director Troutman on Jan 18, 2007 7:49:00 GMT 1
Unless there's any real objection to this, I'm quite pleased with that idea of Leons. If anyone wishes to state their opinion, please do so promptly, mkay?
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Post by king on Jan 18, 2007 8:45:52 GMT 1
and there is no ki bullshit, just like in reality.
you forgot that part.
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Post by John Smith on Jan 18, 2007 14:37:05 GMT 1
If you agree that we exist in the same universe...
Will mentioning the chars from the flash be alright? I mean... If I update Kvist's bio next time, and claim that Dimir as an attempt to get back in business chose Kvist to lead his campaign at a new school? Hircine? State Kvist is there to disrupt the very system, bring down Liam Macmillan and have a new Principal chosen for the job. Dimir? Who will get a second chance for using the system he invented...
As far I am concerned, then I am allowed to do that now. And so is any person that comes here... When shall we say stop? When the 7th or 200th person says he was trained by Legend? Can we be trained by the flash chars? ... Miss Jix is the mother of BK? ... Aunt? Relative in the third branch? Protective head of a secret underground organisation known as The Evil Sisterhood of America, only around to usher in a new dark age for mankind.
We can't claim to know what happened later, basically it's first to the table, gets to choose what happened to them after the series... That is why I find it better to put some distance to the series and say, alternate universe. Since it would generate a lot of bullshit if we start with the Flash chars be involved. Simple enough reason.
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Post by Kei on Jan 18, 2007 14:49:55 GMT 1
Um. No, Emil, just no. Lol.
Go with what was proposed. And all that bullshit you said will inevitably happen, we'll take care of. Unless, they could make a rule about what you said might happen, but, we'll see. I think it wouldn't hurt people at least mentioning Xin and the rest by at least saying stuff like "I first came to Varron because I heard that's where all the strong fighters are (which a lot of people used to say), especially since it's where Xin and the others came from."
*shrugs*
Time for school.
~Manuel
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 18, 2007 21:36:34 GMT 1
Emil... I agree with Manuel here. You're looking at the hard extremes of what could happen. If someone attempts to claim connection to the Flash series, we do not allow them approval until they delete the connection. We will not make immedate - if any - connection to the Xin characters or their lives after Xin directly. The point of recognizing them is so we can actually say "Yes, I wonder how Legend thought of this System back then." or something of this nature. Xin, Legend and the rest are all history right now, people our characters can look to for a foundation historically.
That does not mean we'll be using them on this board. It is possible, I admit, that someday we'll make direct references to the original characters, but you must remember that we'd be coming dangerously close to infringing on the copyright of Steven and Max.
Point is, the reference to the Xin characters is to make life around here alot easier, and to feel more of the Xin series than of something entirely rogue. IF newcomers think they're allowed to take over Steven and Max's work without permission, then we beat their asses for it. Period.
I think you underestimate our resolve here, and I assure you there's nothing to worry about.
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Post by king on Jan 28, 2007 8:16:42 GMT 1
I still think we should abandon the continuity to the orignal flash, because we don't allow any storylines to directly flow from those events or allow characters linked to them, we are basically just doing it so we can say we are doing it.
Also, Leons timelines has a completely unexplained rebound. At the end of the series, Dimirs system is exsposed as a public scandal.....so big that the entire city council has already started drafting new moethods....within a year.
For those who don't know what that means in politics, that is best translated "quickly, lets change this before public outrage changes thier party affiliations"
So now we have practical use to be related (no relation plot wise, character wise, and we don't use ki) and the link us realistically would require a very long, random sotry about why the system fell back under (as if anyone wanted to pull a Gai, they would have to prove the new goals, whatever they were, weren' solved by it)
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