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Post by king on Jan 13, 2007 2:00:20 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure we already have a floating time line, since we have had how many years on thie site with abosloutely no standard passage of time.
Though we cant negate Edward, he had effects on characters that are still here....he is mentined frequently it Leaf's bio.
So, lets just go with a seperate timeline shall we...make everyones life eaiser?
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Post by Valencia Donahue on Jan 13, 2007 2:05:37 GMT 1
I hope I am not rude in asking, since I've read up to this point, but who's Edward?
For clarity's sakes...
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Post by king on Jan 13, 2007 2:32:10 GMT 1
Edward was one of my character, and for all intents and purposes, the only real teachers character there ever was (there were more, but they failed to be failry active).
Also, just because I haven't made him yet doesn't mean I won't....Edward was on leave at the time of the gang war, he wouldn't get tied in.
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 13, 2007 3:43:32 GMT 1
Roger that. I can definitely be happy with Edward's return after all; our still have fond memories of that brief AP U.S. History thread. I'm all for an "alternate" timeline to be honest, something that doesn't exactly follow modern basis, yet still follows the Xin universe. Considering sequels are easier than prequels, I feel it's safer just to go with the "10 years after theory," and for real-time factors, state the time is somewhere from 2010-2015.
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Post by jellar on Jan 13, 2007 4:21:00 GMT 1
Yes... "fond" memories with Mr. Stevens in that AP U.S. History thread indeed...
I was under the impression that OUR Xin was in a seperate universe altogether, unaffected by Xin, Legend, Gai and etc. If you think about it that way, then the year doesn't really matter and we can just plop on four numbers and that would be that, although for satisfaction it would probably be in 200X or 201X. If we ARE in a different universe altogether, there's no need to be in the concept of sequels or prequels and we can just be in the same situation that the Xin gang was in except with our own characters and not those from the flash.
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Post by John Smith on Jan 13, 2007 11:29:48 GMT 1
I would rather just put it in our own timeline and as a seperable universe. Makes it a whole lot easier...
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Post by Maverik on Jan 14, 2007 18:08:40 GMT 1
Though we cant negate Edward, he had effects on characters that are still here....he is mentined frequently it Leaf's bio. I just meant that we could negate the 10 years thing. Not that he ever exsisted. It's easy enough to change the number I would think. I'm not sure which side of this fence I'm on, but if it helps, in the Xin universe, Ki attacks such as flaming fists and breaking brick walls were possible, yet here they are not. Perhaps this is an indication of some kind of paralell timelines?
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 14, 2007 20:16:43 GMT 1
Though we cant negate Edward, he had effects on characters that are still here....he is mentined frequently it Leaf's bio. I just meant that we could negate the 10 years thing. Not that he ever exsisted. It's easy enough to change the number I would think. I'm not sure which side of this fence I'm on, but if it helps, in the Xin universe, Ki attacks such as flaming fists and breaking brick walls were possible, yet here they are not. Perhaps this is an indication of some kind of paralell timelines? Hell Nick, that's easy to counter: just say it was Steven and Max using artistic diction to depict the power of the moves, and BAM, cleared up. Honestly, I never thought of that stuff as "Ki," anymore than the fighters thinking "Oh my God, he's on FIRE!" See what I mean? Whether its ki or not, we could just argue so. Pretty simple.
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Post by greatest on Jan 14, 2007 20:33:26 GMT 1
Um. Can't we still do the whole "Post XIN" thing but still be this year...
I mean. There ARE things that people RP about that happens in current events (going to watch X movie, going to X concert, or even now joining the army to get to Iraq). Why can't we say that XIN happened in the 90's since you guys are all itching for a Ten year gap?
Me votes for current time.
EDIT: About that (Nick's post), they used to be allowed actually (when I first joined)... but, I kinda forgot why they were left out. I think people took them too seriously and made every attack "rigged."
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Post by Odin Reeves on Jan 14, 2007 20:35:07 GMT 1
When Mr. Dom's discussing with the Pillars, and Oton, on how to deal with the Varron students, he noted that XIN use's Qi in order to hold his weak bones together. So therefore, if XIN use's Qi, then Ralph does with his flaming fists, and so does everyone else with whatever they do.
Continue? 3...2...1.... Please insert more quarters to play again.
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 14, 2007 20:51:47 GMT 1
Where's Tyler and his "Qi is real" argument when you need him...
That isn't the concept of "energy attacks" anymore than the sense that Xin concentrated his efforts on his body in order to keep his bones together. Tyler, as others, have argued the sense that it is possible to use concentration to make one's attacks stronger, endurance harder, and stamina longer. Therefore, Qi doesn't have to be the same thing as Ki in this argument.
The only reason why we do not allow Qi is because of the obvious abuse it would receive here...
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Post by Odin Reeves on Jan 14, 2007 20:57:54 GMT 1
Qi/ki/chi. It's all the same.
Oh, and sure concentration can increase plently of things. It's called concentrating on your training. That's how you increasing your strength, striking power, endurance, and stamina.
I'm an ass. I know it. Alternate timeline would work so much better.
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 14, 2007 21:10:35 GMT 1
Hell, you win on that regard. So we still have the Ki/Qi/Chi matter to deal with, which could be a minor obstacle in choosing whether to be based on the flash's timeline or not...
However, Manuel brings up a good point. There are several people on the old board that made reference to modern events, especially concerning Iraq. I would think that war would be over by our other suggested timelines, and in the end, I realized we were in a good spot to explain the "ten years after" theory reasonably, and also explain the "ten years before" foundation that the flash subtly suggests.
If we assume this board is based on our current time, then it's in the year 2007. If we assume our board is based ten years after the events of Xin (from the start, so we're actually about 12 years after now) than that'd place the Xin series (according to us) in the timeline of 1995-1997. If we go further and state the times of when the System was supposedly founded, then we arrive at 1984-1987, which was in the latter part of the Reagan Presidency.
In my respects, I could explain the reasons why the Corporal Punishment System came about during the time of Reagan; however, I feel it's unnecessary at the moment. What that leaves us with is an accurate and workable timeline in real life and the Xin universe.
Now, the real question left: are we based on the Xin universe solidly, or alternatively? Personally I'm all for having references to the Flash - leaving out the use of Ki, of course - and still go with my former argument why Varron fell back to the System.
But in the end, it all depends on Liam's choice, so all I'm doing right now is suggesting.
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Post by Shamino Warhen Ph.D on Jan 15, 2007 6:50:25 GMT 1
Shamino with Ki powers.
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
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Post by Maverik on Jan 15, 2007 17:54:05 GMT 1
It's bad enough that I've had to deal with you having access to Vampire powers, much less Ki. Makes me glad we don't allow it...
In any case, does it matter all THAT much? As far as I can tell, we seem to have floated along in our make shift exsistance without trying to place too much structure around it pretty well till now. And I know for a fact that unless it's somehow compulsory reading, many newbies are likely to ignore any threads and or sections we create to explain all this stuff, leaving our little universe in just about as much dissorganisation as ever.
Where do we exsist? We exsist wherever we perceive that we exsist. Hell, look how long we exsisted without actualy having a phisical, pinpointable land mass on which to exsist. But we kept truckin on.
I'm all for structure... But can't we just simply say that we live in modern day San Fransisco and watch as everybody nods half interestedly and then goes back to RPing?
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Post by jellar on Jan 15, 2007 18:20:59 GMT 1
In any case, does it matter all THAT much? As far as I can tell, we seem to have floated along in our make shift exsistance without trying to place too much structure around it pretty well till now. And I know for a fact that unless it's somehow compulsory reading, many newbies are likely to ignore any threads and or sections we create to explain all this stuff, leaving our little universe in just about as much dissorganisation as ever. Yeah, I'm fairly sure this whole discussion is of my fault when I put a birthday on Jellar's age and said it was March 30, 20XX. Tanya confronted me and said to get rid of those and put whatever was appropriate if the current year was 2007, and I retaliated saying that in John's little description of the current situation, we were in the 'near future.' As I think of it, Tanya told this to Liam and thus this whole discussion was brought about. Sorry guys!
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Post by Director Troutman on Jan 15, 2007 20:27:15 GMT 1
In any case, does it matter all THAT much? As far as I can tell, we seem to have floated along in our make shift exsistance without trying to place too much structure around it pretty well till now. And I know for a fact that unless it's somehow compulsory reading, many newbies are likely to ignore any threads and or sections we create to explain all this stuff, leaving our little universe in just about as much dissorganisation as ever. Yeah, I'm fairly sure this whole discussion is of my fault when I put a birthday on Jellar's age and said it was March 30, 20XX. Tanya confronted me and said to get rid of those and put whatever was appropriate if the current year was 2007, and I retaliated saying that in John's little description of the current situation, we were in the 'near future.' As I think of it, Tanya told this to Liam and thus this whole discussion was brought about. Sorry guys! Nobody is at fault here at all, when Tanya mentioned she'd asked you to change a date on your bio regarding the timeline, I said to her that I figured it was accurate given (as far as my own personal, and now very much incorrect perception had been) the way the board has been portrayed by the players, particularly some of the higher ups. That, of course, was by no means a stab at anyone influencing the manner of the forum, but from what I can see we have an overwhelming majority for maintaining the 10 years after, but still at present time approach.... So, shall we conclude this thread by agreeing that this is an accurate way to depict the board? Timeline - Separate from the original series, alternate reality, set in present time?
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Post by Leon Loire on Jan 15, 2007 20:42:06 GMT 1
I can live with it. While I'm a bit disappointed that we can't involve the Flash, I can see now it's much wiser not to. Connections to Xin and the rest would result in frowns from LP1, and if we're trying to become an official board, it'd look better if we simply followed the idea, not the actual storyline.
So yes, I'm fine with present time, alternate Varron from ten years ago, and an alternate line from reality and the flash both.
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Post by greatest on Jan 16, 2007 0:05:20 GMT 1
Alternate Varron from ten years ago? Alright, now I dont understand what's going on.
Someone explain please?
~Manuel
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Post by Maverik on Jan 16, 2007 4:22:31 GMT 1
We're in our own timeline. The events of Xin never happened, because we are not in that universe. I think that sums it up.
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